Do Microsoft beta test their products?
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Outlook XP... Faster than 2000, and so far much more stable, and yet they still haven't fixed many of the stupid little bugs - and they are obvious ones at that! For example, the send/receive progress dialog has a check box titles "Don't show this during send and receive". Great. When I check it and cleack "send and receive", sure enough the progress dialog remains hidden. So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? The check box is still checked, and even if you close the dialog it will pop straight up again immeadiately. Not a problem? -- Try this routine every day and every night for six months when you have eight e-mail accounts (that's 16 'operations'). Or how about the one whereby the entire program will randomly lock up when you click an item on the Outlook Today page. And why of why did they go to the trouble of installing an icon in the systray if it doen't have a simple context menu. They should at least have Exit, and preferably New Mail and maybe even an Enable Stupid Bugs checkbox too... I don't know whether to be mad or just collapse to my knees and weep. :| Come on Microsoft, Outlook is dragging the rest of the Office package down.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
David Wulff wrote: So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? Thank god its not just me. I was actually about to post something about this behaviour this very morning... It shits me up the wall :mad: The other thing it does for me is that sometimes when it starts up, the window just doesnt paint properly. The tree is stuck up in the top left corner, and all around it, filling the rest of the screen, is just grey. -- David Wengier TAC ad gone wrong: "Don't fool yourself, you're a bloody idiot." Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
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David Wulff wrote: So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? Thank god its not just me. I was actually about to post something about this behaviour this very morning... It shits me up the wall :mad: The other thing it does for me is that sometimes when it starts up, the window just doesnt paint properly. The tree is stuck up in the top left corner, and all around it, filling the rest of the screen, is just grey. -- David Wengier TAC ad gone wrong: "Don't fool yourself, you're a bloody idiot." Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
Bill G. would like to thank you guys for volunteering to beta test OutlookXP. How soon do you think you'll have some feedback for us?
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Outlook XP... Faster than 2000, and so far much more stable, and yet they still haven't fixed many of the stupid little bugs - and they are obvious ones at that! For example, the send/receive progress dialog has a check box titles "Don't show this during send and receive". Great. When I check it and cleack "send and receive", sure enough the progress dialog remains hidden. So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? The check box is still checked, and even if you close the dialog it will pop straight up again immeadiately. Not a problem? -- Try this routine every day and every night for six months when you have eight e-mail accounts (that's 16 'operations'). Or how about the one whereby the entire program will randomly lock up when you click an item on the Outlook Today page. And why of why did they go to the trouble of installing an icon in the systray if it doen't have a simple context menu. They should at least have Exit, and preferably New Mail and maybe even an Enable Stupid Bugs checkbox too... I don't know whether to be mad or just collapse to my knees and weep. :| Come on Microsoft, Outlook is dragging the rest of the Office package down.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
Wow, I haven't noticed any of those except for the icon in the system tray not having a context menu. But why would I want one its just a notification icon. To each his own I guess :) Nice sig, btw :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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Outlook XP... Faster than 2000, and so far much more stable, and yet they still haven't fixed many of the stupid little bugs - and they are obvious ones at that! For example, the send/receive progress dialog has a check box titles "Don't show this during send and receive". Great. When I check it and cleack "send and receive", sure enough the progress dialog remains hidden. So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? The check box is still checked, and even if you close the dialog it will pop straight up again immeadiately. Not a problem? -- Try this routine every day and every night for six months when you have eight e-mail accounts (that's 16 'operations'). Or how about the one whereby the entire program will randomly lock up when you click an item on the Outlook Today page. And why of why did they go to the trouble of installing an icon in the systray if it doen't have a simple context menu. They should at least have Exit, and preferably New Mail and maybe even an Enable Stupid Bugs checkbox too... I don't know whether to be mad or just collapse to my knees and weep. :| Come on Microsoft, Outlook is dragging the rest of the Office package down.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
Just don't get me started about Office products. Frontpage
- why is the search and replace retarded? (No F3, no auto-stocking the edit with the highlighted word, no history)
- stop turning my '"'s to 'quot;'s dammit!
- locking files. I've closed the file. Let me delete it. LET ME DELETE IT!
- Constant viz errors as half-lines linger on the page and cursor is suddenly moving along in the middle of nothingness
Outlook
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No - I can't start. Once I start I won't be able to stop. This is all Office2K. I've used OfficeXP but it totally trashed every single excel file I opened (truncated and garbled) so I ran away screaming in terror. I saw enough to see that it still had many of it's less charming features. I really, really like working and programming in Windows. I love the possibilities and simplicity of .NET. I even think Visual Studio .NET is great. But the Office products are retarded. They are beyond the point where feature stupidity can be attributed to shipping deadlines, or lack of resources, or immaturity of the product. Surely - surely - there are people in Redmond using the products and who are fully aware of the problems. I do not understand why they don't get together on a weekly basis and wedgie the entire Office dev team. If it's not the dev team's fault then they should, in turn, wedgie the program managers. Who should in turn wedgie their managers if it's not their fault all the way up to Bill himself getting wedgied by 40,000 disgruntled (and sore) Microsoft employees. Then we'd have an Office suite that we'd all be proud to use. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Wow, I haven't noticed any of those except for the icon in the system tray not having a context menu. But why would I want one its just a notification icon. To each his own I guess :) Nice sig, btw :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
James T. Johnson wrote: But why would I want one its just a notification icon. No, I mean the "minimise to systray" icon. There was a MSKB article about it.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
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Outlook XP... Faster than 2000, and so far much more stable, and yet they still haven't fixed many of the stupid little bugs - and they are obvious ones at that! For example, the send/receive progress dialog has a check box titles "Don't show this during send and receive". Great. When I check it and cleack "send and receive", sure enough the progress dialog remains hidden. So why oh f--ing why does it still show everytime Outlook does an scheduled send/receive? The check box is still checked, and even if you close the dialog it will pop straight up again immeadiately. Not a problem? -- Try this routine every day and every night for six months when you have eight e-mail accounts (that's 16 'operations'). Or how about the one whereby the entire program will randomly lock up when you click an item on the Outlook Today page. And why of why did they go to the trouble of installing an icon in the systray if it doen't have a simple context menu. They should at least have Exit, and preferably New Mail and maybe even an Enable Stupid Bugs checkbox too... I don't know whether to be mad or just collapse to my knees and weep. :| Come on Microsoft, Outlook is dragging the rest of the Office package down.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
Does Microsoft (or the software world in general) thoroughly test thier products before shipping? Oh, don't get me started... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Just don't get me started about Office products. Frontpage
- why is the search and replace retarded? (No F3, no auto-stocking the edit with the highlighted word, no history)
- stop turning my '"'s to 'quot;'s dammit!
- locking files. I've closed the file. Let me delete it. LET ME DELETE IT!
- Constant viz errors as half-lines linger on the page and cursor is suddenly moving along in the middle of nothingness
Outlook
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No - I can't start. Once I start I won't be able to stop. This is all Office2K. I've used OfficeXP but it totally trashed every single excel file I opened (truncated and garbled) so I ran away screaming in terror. I saw enough to see that it still had many of it's less charming features. I really, really like working and programming in Windows. I love the possibilities and simplicity of .NET. I even think Visual Studio .NET is great. But the Office products are retarded. They are beyond the point where feature stupidity can be attributed to shipping deadlines, or lack of resources, or immaturity of the product. Surely - surely - there are people in Redmond using the products and who are fully aware of the problems. I do not understand why they don't get together on a weekly basis and wedgie the entire Office dev team. If it's not the dev team's fault then they should, in turn, wedgie the program managers. Who should in turn wedgie their managers if it's not their fault all the way up to Bill himself getting wedgied by 40,000 disgruntled (and sore) Microsoft employees. Then we'd have an Office suite that we'd all be proud to use. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: all the way up to Bill himself getting wedgied by 40,000 disgruntled (and sore) Microsoft employees. Now that's quite a visual! I've got a few of my users on StarOffice 5.2, and they're quite satisfied. The one's who think they're somehow special (i.e. management) won't try it, but they still bitch and whine when I insist that we buy a legal copy of Office whenever they want to add it to another PC. Duh! I don't know why they want the Office junk in the first place; none of them is bright enough to use more than 5% of the features. I use Works, to far better effect than anyone else using Office.
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Chris Maunder wrote: all the way up to Bill himself getting wedgied by 40,000 disgruntled (and sore) Microsoft employees. Now that's quite a visual! I've got a few of my users on StarOffice 5.2, and they're quite satisfied. The one's who think they're somehow special (i.e. management) won't try it, but they still bitch and whine when I insist that we buy a legal copy of Office whenever they want to add it to another PC. Duh! I don't know why they want the Office junk in the first place; none of them is bright enough to use more than 5% of the features. I use Works, to far better effect than anyone else using Office.
Roger Wright wrote: I've got a few of my users on StarOffice 5.2, and they're quite satisfied Muhahahaha. From ver 6.0 Star Office for Win32 will not be a free product Nish :|
Oh, I don't know why she's leaving, or where she's gonna go I guess she's got her reasons but I just don't wanna know 'Cos for 24 years I've been living next door to Alice 24 years just waitin' for a chance To tell her how I feel and maybe get a second glance Now I gotta get used to not living next door to Alice
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James T. Johnson wrote: But why would I want one its just a notification icon. No, I mean the "minimise to systray" icon. There was a MSKB article about it.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukWell thank you David...
David Wulff wrote: I mean the "minimise to systray" icon WOW! I didn't know Outlook XP could do that! :) In that case it does make sense for there to be a context menu :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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David Wulff wrote: I mean the "minimise to systray" icon WOW! I didn't know Outlook XP could do that! :) In that case it does make sense for there to be a context menu :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
James T. Johnson wrote: WOW! I didn't know Outlook XP could do that! It is not an option in the program, but there was a MSKB link posted on CP a while back that explained how to do it. James T. Johnson wrote: In that case it does make sense for there to be a context menu Every other systray icon does. At least an Exit command if nothing else. At the moment you have to double click it to open it just to shut it down.
David Wulff
http://www.davidwulff.co.ukI could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.