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    Christian Graus
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    Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      The "best practice" in writing comparisons like this is to put the constant on the LHS, so, instead of "if (x = 5)", you write "if (5 = x)", the compiler will flag the latter as an error. I think I read this trick in one of the Microsoft Programmer's Guides, many many years ago.

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        The "best practice" in writing comparisons like this is to put the constant on the LHS, so, instead of "if (x = 5)", you write "if (5 = x)", the compiler will flag the latter as an error. I think I read this trick in one of the Microsoft Programmer's Guides, many many years ago.

        -- God creates; man programs.

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        Yeah, like I said, that's what I did after that.

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        • C Christian Graus

          Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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          I always compile at warning level 4 so code like this will generate warning C4706: 'assignment within conditional expression'. So I view this more as a typo than a bug.


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          • C Christian Graus

            Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x )

            I don't like that but it's quite common and is one reason (amomg many) why, in the newer languages, we shouldn't still be using C-syntax three decades after it was first devised. Still, I don't make this particular mistake. Maybe it's just the way my mind works. (I make all sorts of other mistake of course.:))

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              Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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              Eytukan
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              VB ::-> , atleast VB can sit straight now in this thread. lol btw, if(5==x):omg: My eyes are getting swapped automatically to make it (x==5). I've been trapped by the "=" for few times , but I've become more cautious on this.


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                I always compile at warning level 4 so code like this will generate warning C4706: 'assignment within conditional expression'. So I view this more as a typo than a bug.


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                In C# if statments can only evaluate booleans so if(x=5) would not give it a boolean and cause a compiler error. C# is the way of the future.

                static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                  In C# if statments can only evaluate booleans so if(x=5) would not give it a boolean and cause a compiler error. C# is the way of the future.

                  static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                  Henize wrote:

                  C# is the way of the future.

                  Yeah, sure. VB uses context to determine which meaning for "=" you want. Is VB the way of the future? I'm with PJ on this one - it should produce a warning. that's just... The C++ Way.

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                    Henize wrote:

                    C# is the way of the future.

                    Yeah, sure. VB uses context to determine which meaning for "=" you want. Is VB the way of the future? I'm with PJ on this one - it should produce a warning. that's just... The C++ Way.

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                    VB is crap. C# allows flexable syntax and more power with pointers. I guess I should say .NET is the way of the future.

                    static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      Hmm. I know you all use Visual C. Though I seldom make this mistake, Borlands C++Builder compiler gives me a neat warning: 'Possibly incorrect statement.:cool:'

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x )

                        I don't like that but it's quite common and is one reason (amomg many) why, in the newer languages, we shouldn't still be using C-syntax three decades after it was first devised. Still, I don't make this particular mistake. Maybe it's just the way my mind works. (I make all sorts of other mistake of course.:))

                        Kevin

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                        Christian Graus
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                        *grin* I don't believe I've ever made it except as a typo. Yeah, I have abandoned that syntax in C#, as it's no longer necessary.

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Hmm. I know you all use Visual C. Though I seldom make this mistake, Borlands C++Builder compiler gives me a neat warning: 'Possibly incorrect statement.:cool:'

                          Cees Meijer Software / Hardware Engineer QMetrix BV Specialists in River and Sea flow measurements.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          So does VC on a level 4. I should mention, I took this job on a project that had been around for some time, and when I started, there were 600 warnings or something. This was the event that finally helped me convince my boss to let me clear all those warnings, and impliment a 'warnings are errors' policy.

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                            Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            if (x=5)

                            Hasn't everyone* made this same mistake at one point in time? :doh: Not really wanting to admit this has happened to me on at least two occasions.


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                              Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              if (5 == x )

                              I've done this for years (after running into that bug a couple times in college and spending days trying to track it down). Interestingly enough, I've run into opposition to it from supervisors when coding standards are discussed. I've never quite understood why they wouldn't want to avoid possible bugs, but sometimes they are almost religious about it.

                              If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                In C# if statments can only evaluate booleans so if(x=5) would not give it a boolean and cause a compiler error. C# is the way of the future.

                                static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                                Henize wrote:

                                In C# if statments can only evaluate booleans so if(x=5) would not give it a boolean and cause a compiler error.

                                Which it "borrowed" from Java ...

                                Henize wrote:

                                C# is the way of the future.

                                Just like you don't use a hammer when you need a screwdriver, you don't use C# (or Java or VB) when you need C++.

                                If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  if (5 == x )

                                  I've done this for years (after running into that bug a couple times in college and spending days trying to track it down). Interestingly enough, I've run into opposition to it from supervisors when coding standards are discussed. I've never quite understood why they wouldn't want to avoid possible bugs, but sometimes they are almost religious about it.

                                  If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                  Zac Howland wrote:

                                  nterestingly enough, I've run into opposition to it from supervisors when coding standards are discussed. I've never quite understood why they wouldn't want to avoid possible bugs, but sometimes they are almost religious about it.

                                  I don't especially like this style but it's not the kind of thing I would forbid in a coding standard. It should concentrate on more important things, e.g., in C/C++, uninitialised variables.

                                  Kevin

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                                    Zac Howland wrote:

                                    nterestingly enough, I've run into opposition to it from supervisors when coding standards are discussed. I've never quite understood why they wouldn't want to avoid possible bugs, but sometimes they are almost religious about it.

                                    I don't especially like this style but it's not the kind of thing I would forbid in a coding standard. It should concentrate on more important things, e.g., in C/C++, uninitialised variables.

                                    Kevin

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                                    Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                    It should concentrate on more important things, e.g., in C/C++, uninitialised variables.

                                    Agreed. However, it is interesting what topics actually get fought over most when discussing coding standard guidelines. I've been in meetings with 2 different development teams at 2 different companies and had similar discussions over what I consider to be rather trivial issues.

                                    If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                      Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                      Take care also writing != comparison use if(5 != x) instead if(x != 5) because there's a chance for missing "!"

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                                        Zac Howland wrote:

                                        nterestingly enough, I've run into opposition to it from supervisors when coding standards are discussed. I've never quite understood why they wouldn't want to avoid possible bugs, but sometimes they are almost religious about it.

                                        I don't especially like this style but it's not the kind of thing I would forbid in a coding standard. It should concentrate on more important things, e.g., in C/C++, uninitialised variables.

                                        Kevin

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                                        [coding standards]

                                        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                        It should concentrate on more important things

                                        Like which ways brackets should be placed! :mad: Hating coding style guides and the people that are content in contriving them


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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          Ravi beat me to it, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. I'd been coding C++ for about 8 months, paid employment for about 2. I spent a day looking for this bug, every time I saw the line if (x=5) my brain just turned it in to if (x==5) which is obviously what I meant. I got into the habit of writing if (5 == x ) after that, and every now and again, I'd get the compiler error that told me I'd made the same typo again :-)

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          if (5 == x )

                                          Actually, there is quite some resistence to this. Their justification is that you don't avoid bugs by tricks or writing unreadable code. You happen to have such a trick for this case, but many other bugs cannot be avoided by tricks. Sticking to a good discipline is the key. The good thing is when you think of that trick, you are avoiding the bug already, regardless of which way you actually code. :)

                                          Best, Jun

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