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Roger Wright wrote: That would depend upon the modality of the distribution. And the magnitude of the local maxima. So in simple words, this signifys which ones we sample and what they are. Or is it more deeply significant ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
It's probably too late on a Friday to be responding to this, but I'll try. It's quite possible to distort reality by quoting mean figures, which may explain why so many statisticians have jobs, while many excellent programmers go wanting. One of the best books I've read was reqired in school, "How To Lie With Statistics." A great text that I highly recommend! Modality deals with clustering of values around certain centroids; sometimes this distribution can overwhelm common sense, and render the concept of a "mean" meaningless. I wish I hadn't loaned that book out, as I'd really like to brush up on it, but she was so damned cute...
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Roger Wright wrote: There's a subtle difference detween deviants and perverts. Deviants use feathers; perverts use the whole chicken. So who uses the Whole Goose ? Is it the Gander ? And if so does he use the whole Goose or just the Goose whole ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: just the Goose whole ? Oh, hell, why elaborate? Good thought, Colin. We don't see geese here, so I can only speculate, and speculation has oft' led me astray... Why go there? A thought, though, occurs to me - geese have much longer necks than chickens. Do you suppose that this gives them an edge in Darwinian terms?
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I think that Roger is saying that, on average, statisticians are average. ;P You've have an extensive knowledge of numbers, Colin, does that inclued statistics? "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
Daniel Ferguson wrote: You've have an extensive knowledge of numbers, Colin, does that inclued statistics? My education was somewhat limited, and I only did a few Uni courses with stats. But in a workplace environment I have never needed to use them, and what really matters is your working and applied knowledge rather than any theoretical stuff. Often stats is called applied maths, but I have never found applications for them, apart from permutations and combinations. But, yes Daniel I'm more of a "numbers" type person than a "math" person. The Internet has been a real boom to me, allowing me to study some really obscure toipics :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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****Colin Davies wrote: just the Goose whole ? Oh, hell, why elaborate? Good thought, Colin. We don't see geese here, so I can only speculate, and speculation has oft' led me astray... Why go there? A thought, though, occurs to me - geese have much longer necks than chickens. Do you suppose that this gives them an edge in Darwinian terms?
Roger Wright wrote: geese have much longer necks than chickens. Do you suppose that this gives them an edge in Darwinian terms? Unsure, possibly a longer neck allows them 1.) to peek there head over tall grasses, 2.) Use for predigesting food. 3.) Itching odd places. What do you think ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: You've have an extensive knowledge of numbers, Colin, does that inclued statistics? My education was somewhat limited, and I only did a few Uni courses with stats. But in a workplace environment I have never needed to use them, and what really matters is your working and applied knowledge rather than any theoretical stuff. Often stats is called applied maths, but I have never found applications for them, apart from permutations and combinations. But, yes Daniel I'm more of a "numbers" type person than a "math" person. The Internet has been a real boom to me, allowing me to study some really obscure toipics :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: But, yes Daniel I'm more of a "numbers" type person than a "math" person. I don't understand the difference between 'numbers' and 'math'. ****Colin Davies wrote: The Internet has been a real boom to me, allowing me to study some really obscure toipics. And not just math, either. I often wonder how we lived without the internet. It's the same sort of thing in some TV programs where many of the characters have cell phones. In some cases the very plot of the program would have to be changed without the use of a cell phone. For example, if they couln't just phone for help when lost in the woods. Sometimes technology makes life a little easier, and sometimes it actually changes the way we live. Interesting stuff. :) "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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****Colin Davies wrote: But, yes Daniel I'm more of a "numbers" type person than a "math" person. I don't understand the difference between 'numbers' and 'math'. ****Colin Davies wrote: The Internet has been a real boom to me, allowing me to study some really obscure toipics. And not just math, either. I often wonder how we lived without the internet. It's the same sort of thing in some TV programs where many of the characters have cell phones. In some cases the very plot of the program would have to be changed without the use of a cell phone. For example, if they couln't just phone for help when lost in the woods. Sometimes technology makes life a little easier, and sometimes it actually changes the way we live. Interesting stuff. :) "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
Daniel Ferguson wrote: I don't understand the difference between 'numbers' and 'math'. I'm unsure how to explain the difference well, But I prefer to look in awe at a number like "9" then do calculus or algebra. Obs: 9 is the first odd number thats not a prime :-) Or I prefer to examine a number series to find patterns etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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It's probably too late on a Friday to be responding to this, but I'll try. It's quite possible to distort reality by quoting mean figures, which may explain why so many statisticians have jobs, while many excellent programmers go wanting. One of the best books I've read was reqired in school, "How To Lie With Statistics." A great text that I highly recommend! Modality deals with clustering of values around certain centroids; sometimes this distribution can overwhelm common sense, and render the concept of a "mean" meaningless. I wish I hadn't loaned that book out, as I'd really like to brush up on it, but she was so damned cute...
Thanks Roger for keeping it real simple. I appreciate that. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Roger Wright wrote: geese have much longer necks than chickens. Do you suppose that this gives them an edge in Darwinian terms? Unsure, possibly a longer neck allows them 1.) to peek there head over tall grasses, 2.) Use for predigesting food. 3.) Itching odd places. What do you think ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: 3.) Itching odd places. Having had a few geese around I can testify that they make use of this anatomical feature. When they started extending this skill to small children visiting the lake, the wardens rounded them up and found them a new home:-D
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: I don't understand the difference between 'numbers' and 'math'. I'm unsure how to explain the difference well, But I prefer to look in awe at a number like "9" then do calculus or algebra. Obs: 9 is the first odd number thats not a prime :-) Or I prefer to examine a number series to find patterns etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: I prefer to examine a number series to find patterns etc. That is good fun! And the hobby isn't limited to numbers - there are patterns all around, and most never notice them. Have you ever read "Nature's Numbers" by Ian Stewart? Great entertainment there, as it not only points out some patterns - like the fact that the number of seeds on a sunflower follow a Fibonacci series - but also explains the 'why' of each.
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****Colin Davies wrote: I prefer to examine a number series to find patterns etc. That is good fun! And the hobby isn't limited to numbers - there are patterns all around, and most never notice them. Have you ever read "Nature's Numbers" by Ian Stewart? Great entertainment there, as it not only points out some patterns - like the fact that the number of seeds on a sunflower follow a Fibonacci series - but also explains the 'why' of each.
Roger Wright wrote: like the fact that the number of seeds on a sunflower follow a Fibonacci series - but also explains the 'why' of each. Yes, thats gogod stuff siimilar to the "Lucas numbers" and the calculations of the "golden number" BTW : Did you know Fibonacci's daughter was not named "Bunny". Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"