United States or America?
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Actually, "America" does also mean "USA". Deal with it. :P Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. You "non-United States of Americans" (see how dumb that sounds) really need to get over the gun issue. It's not like every US citizen is walking around with a gun in his belt. Even if we were, why would you care? It's our laws, our rights, our concerns - stay out of it!!!! You don't see me whining about an independent Quebec do you? I'm not spouting off about the Canadian/Inuit situation, am I? They are Canadian issues and my opinion (or lack there of) is moot. I find it ironic that so many non-US citizens complain about the US getting involved in world affairs (even when I agree ;P), yet seem to think that they need to complain about internal US laws and policies.
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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Jamie Hale wrote: Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. You "non-United States of Americans" (see how dumb that sounds) really need to get over the gun issue. It's not like every US citizen is walking around with a gun in his belt. Even if we were, why would you care? It's our laws, our rights, our concerns - stay out of it!!!! You don't see me whining about an independent Quebec do you? I'm not spouting off about the Canadian/Inuit situation, am I? They are Canadian issues and my opinion (or lack there of) is moot. I find it ironic that so many non-US citizens complain about the US getting involved in world affairs (even when I agree ;P), yet seem to think that they need to complain about internal US laws and policies.
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: I find it ironic that so many non-US citizens complain about the US getting involved in world affairs (even when I agree), yet seem to think that they need to complain about internal US laws and policies. Uh, but I get to complain about US policies when they affect me and the world in which I'm raising my child. It's internal US policy that gets it involved in world affairs. And don't get me started on US "Free-Trade"... And frankly, if Quebec wants to split that's fine with me. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I find it ironic that so many non-US citizens complain about the US getting involved in world affairs (even when I agree), yet seem to think that they need to complain about internal US laws and policies. Uh, but I get to complain about US policies when they affect me and the world in which I'm raising my child. It's internal US policy that gets it involved in world affairs. And don't get me started on US "Free-Trade"... And frankly, if Quebec wants to split that's fine with me. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: Uh, but I get to complain about US policies when they affect me and the world in which I'm raising my child. Just so I'm straight on this... As a Canadian, you believe you have the right to complain about laws internal to the US (gun laws) that cannot effect you unless you visit the US??? Wow!
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: I have a bone to pick here. Through all the sh*t that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". You're so far off the fuckin bag that the pitcher could run you down. "America" is a commonly used conjugated form of the naame "United States of America". When people say "America", they typically mean *our country* and not one of the two continents full of immgrants and fence-sitters. If Canadians are so shy about getting involved in world affairs (beyond whining about some silly ice skating contest), maybe they should (as a country) tie kerosene-soaked rags around their ankles so that ants can't crawl up and bite their candy asses. Besides that, it is legal to own a bullet proof vest here - it just makes more sense to buy more ammo though, and use a hostage as a shield. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Jamie Hale wrote: I have a bone to pick here. Through all the sh*t that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". You're so far off the fuckin bag that the pitcher could run you down. "America" is a commonly used conjugated form of the naame "United States of America". When people say "America", they typically mean *our country* and not one of the two continents full of immgrants and fence-sitters. If Canadians are so shy about getting involved in world affairs (beyond whining about some silly ice skating contest), maybe they should (as a country) tie kerosene-soaked rags around their ankles so that ants can't crawl up and bite their candy asses. Besides that, it is legal to own a bullet proof vest here - it just makes more sense to buy more ammo though, and use a hostage as a shield. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: You're so far off the f***in bag that the pitcher could run you down. Oh I know. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If Canadians are so shy about getting involved in world affairs (beyond whining about some silly ice skating contest), maybe they should (as a country) tie kerosene-soaked rags around their ankles so that ants can't crawl up and bite their candy asses. Remind me to ask my local representative about his "kerosene-soaked rags" policy next time an election comes around. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Besides that, it is legal to own a bullet proof vest here - it just makes more sense to buy more ammo though, and use a hostage as a shield. Is it legal? Perhaps it's not in certain states? I read that once and was truly amazed. But I suppose it might have changed since then. (For this particular point, please disregard my somewhat hypocritical signature. :jig: ) J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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Jamie Hale wrote: Uh, but I get to complain about US policies when they affect me and the world in which I'm raising my child. Just so I'm straight on this... As a Canadian, you believe you have the right to complain about laws internal to the US (gun laws) that cannot effect you unless you visit the US??? Wow!
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: Just so I'm straight on this... As a Canadian, you believe you have the right to complain about laws internal to the US (gun laws) that cannot effect you unless you visit the US??? Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. And when there are fewer of them kicking around, fewer of them fall into the hands of Canadian people (in general) and children (specifically). Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame gun laws. I blame a society that spends so much time watching US media as well. And I blame Elvis. The bastard. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: You're so far off the f***in bag that the pitcher could run you down. Oh I know. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If Canadians are so shy about getting involved in world affairs (beyond whining about some silly ice skating contest), maybe they should (as a country) tie kerosene-soaked rags around their ankles so that ants can't crawl up and bite their candy asses. Remind me to ask my local representative about his "kerosene-soaked rags" policy next time an election comes around. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Besides that, it is legal to own a bullet proof vest here - it just makes more sense to buy more ammo though, and use a hostage as a shield. Is it legal? Perhaps it's not in certain states? I read that once and was truly amazed. But I suppose it might have changed since then. (For this particular point, please disregard my somewhat hypocritical signature. :jig: ) J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Actually, in some states, it's against the law for a *felon* to wear a bullet-proof vest. What's really absurd is that the're trying to get a convicted felon to obey the law even after he's shown a willingness (and propensity) not to do so (otherwise, he wouldn't be a felon, and wouldn't be subject to that particular law). "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Just so I'm straight on this... As a Canadian, you believe you have the right to complain about laws internal to the US (gun laws) that cannot effect you unless you visit the US??? Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. And when there are fewer of them kicking around, fewer of them fall into the hands of Canadian people (in general) and children (specifically). Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame gun laws. I blame a society that spends so much time watching US media as well. And I blame Elvis. The bastard. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. Out of curiousity, where does this end? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Cars? Knives? Caffeine? Artifical Sweeteners? All can kill you. Hell, the first three kill more Canadians every year than guns. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Blaming US guns laws for Canadian gun usage is simply making excuses and trying to rationalize the problem. Jamie Hale wrote: And I blame Elvis. The bastard. My dog's name is Elvis, why the hell are you blaming him?? :cool: :cool:
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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Jamie Hale wrote: Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. Out of curiousity, where does this end? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Cars? Knives? Caffeine? Artifical Sweeteners? All can kill you. Hell, the first three kill more Canadians every year than guns. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Blaming US guns laws for Canadian gun usage is simply making excuses and trying to rationalize the problem. Jamie Hale wrote: And I blame Elvis. The bastard. My dog's name is Elvis, why the hell are you blaming him?? :cool: :cool:
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
I wonder if anyone's done a study and counted the number of people that were killed by guns, but that were also dying from an incurable disease, or were smokers or lawyers, or were continually being picked up for this crime or that crime... In that case, the gun did the rest of society a favor. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Jamie Hale wrote: Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. Out of curiousity, where does this end? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Cars? Knives? Caffeine? Artifical Sweeteners? All can kill you. Hell, the first three kill more Canadians every year than guns. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Blaming US guns laws for Canadian gun usage is simply making excuses and trying to rationalize the problem. Jamie Hale wrote: And I blame Elvis. The bastard. My dog's name is Elvis, why the hell are you blaming him?? :cool: :cool:
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: Out of curiousity, where does this end? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Cars? Knives? Caffeine? Artifical Sweeteners? All can kill you. Hell, the first three kill more Canadians every year than guns. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Blaming US guns laws for Canadian gun usage is simply making excuses and trying to rationalize the problem. I'm not blaming the US entirely. I agree, Canada need stiffer gun laws and a bunch more money to support the people who enforce them. I'm just saying if there were few guns around, fewer people would get shot. Just seems logical to me. For the most part, alchohol, cigarettes and cars kill people because some people are inherently stupid. And unfortunately, politicians can't lobby against stupidity as it could potentially legislate them out of existence... :) Mike Mullikin wrote: My dog's name is Elvis, An excellent name for a dog. I prefer "people" names for pets. Personally, our next dog will be named Doug, or Arthur or Beatrice or something. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". I gotta agree there is a political "America" and a Geographic "Americas". What would be a real laugh is if some little country in the Carribean renamed themselves "America" to cause even more confusion. BTW: What is Canadas full legal name ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Jamie Hale wrote: When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". I gotta agree there is a political "America" and a Geographic "Americas". What would be a real laugh is if some little country in the Carribean renamed themselves "America" to cause even more confusion. BTW: What is Canadas full legal name ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
This is the way their country is registered with the UN: "Canada, eh! Want another brewski, eh?". "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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This is the way their country is registered with the UN: "Canada, eh! Want another brewski, eh?". "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: "Canada, eh! Want another brewski, eh?".= Damn straight! And yes, I do want a brewski. :-D "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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I have a bone to pick here. Through all the shit that's flown about since September 11, it's come to my attention that people from the United States (including the leaders of the country who should know better) have taken it upon themselves to take responsibility for several continents. When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". Personally, as a Canadian (ie. from a country that is NOT the US but also a member of North America), I am disgusted by most of the actions taken on behalf of "America" and I cringe every time I hear the term. I most definitely DO NOT want my name and the name of my country associated with the actions of the United States (unless it's to call us the meek wimpy fence-sitters to the north). I know we sent troops to the middle east, but nobody asked my permission... I guess all this "America" vs. Australia stuff brought it to a head. Just hoping that people could refer to the country in which it is legal to own a semi-automatic handgun but NOT a bullet-proof vest as "The United States Of America" and not all of "America" itself. Thanks. :) "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". It's fairly typical for them to think they are the only country on the planet. What we really need is a new name for them -- something like 'amuricuns'. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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Jamie Hale wrote: When one refers to "America", one is referring to North, South and Central America. NOT "The United States Of America". It's fairly typical for them to think they are the only country on the planet. What we really need is a new name for them -- something like 'amuricuns'. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
Daniel Ferguson wrote: It's fairly typical for them to think they are the only country on the planet. I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. In 5th grade I had to memorize the name and capital of every country in Europe, Africa, and Asia, in 6th grade that was extended to North America and South America, plus the provinces of Canada with their respective capitals. I'll be damned if I can remember them all off the top of my head, but nothing quick refreshers wouldn't fix :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: It's fairly typical for them to think they are the only country on the planet. I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. In 5th grade I had to memorize the name and capital of every country in Europe, Africa, and Asia, in 6th grade that was extended to North America and South America, plus the provinces of Canada with their respective capitals. I'll be damned if I can remember them all off the top of my head, but nothing quick refreshers wouldn't fix :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
You really don't seem to be typical to me. I once met an American girl when I was travelling in Ireland, I told her I was going to "Spain" She asked me if I meant "Mexico" I told her it was Spain in Europe. She explined to me Mexicans spoke Spanish so Spain was there. I wish that had never happened, it was so stupid, I still wonder if she really was so Stupid. Although after having been in Ireland for two days she claimed to understand all about there problems. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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You really don't seem to be typical to me. I once met an American girl when I was travelling in Ireland, I told her I was going to "Spain" She asked me if I meant "Mexico" I told her it was Spain in Europe. She explined to me Mexicans spoke Spanish so Spain was there. I wish that had never happened, it was so stupid, I still wonder if she really was so Stupid. Although after having been in Ireland for two days she claimed to understand all about there problems. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
:omg: Was she blonde? :-P ****Colin Davies wrote: You really don't seem to be typical to me. Maybe its my upbringing? :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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:omg: Was she blonde? :-P ****Colin Davies wrote: You really don't seem to be typical to me. Maybe its my upbringing? :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
James T. Johnson wrote: Was she blonde? No ! James T. Johnson wrote: Maybe its my upbringing? Maybe :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
