Damn fucking CD burner
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Also, don't discount the possibility that the burner may be OK and the blank CD's may be crap. I tried to console myself with that possibility, but somehow the probabilities for 7 CDRs out of 10 CDRs being crappy were so low that despite my sincere attempts, I failed to convince myself as to the absolute well-being of my CD Writer. Nish
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I tried to console myself with that possibility, but somehow the probabilities for 7 CDRs out of 10 CDRs being crappy were so low that despite my sincere attempts, I failed to convince myself as to the absolute well-being of my CD Writer. Not so fast grass-hopper, if the 10 CD's were in a single package there is an excellent chance that they were made in the same batch, probably even consecutively. I once bought a 25 pack of cheap generic CD's that were all junk.
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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Well, Nish, I'm glad the finer points of the English language are being teught in India. :) ____________________ David Wulff A lot of Americans, like [Martin], are arrogant, ignorant and blind to the thought that there may be people in this world who don't cry themselves to sleep every night because they don't live in America. - CG in The Marvinski Wars, 9 April '02
Well, because of the rotten Indian economy [assuming that it even qualifies as an economy] I am usually quite hard up for extra cash at most times. I had been saving for 5 months for this CD Writer. I had to choose between a 17 inch monitor or a CD Writer and I chose the writer. My HDD is only 16 GB and I badly needed to free some extra space. Thats what I bought the burner for. And after 150 days of anticipation, when it does this to me, it's not exactly a pleasant feeling. In fact yesterday night I was so upset that I didn't even participate in the battle between CG vs Marvanski. They both seemed to be talking about US americans or something similar. It would have been child's play for me to deviate them both from that topic to some other more relaxing topic like a comparison of the size of women's tits across the world. But I failed to do my duty as Lounge moderator. To be frank I feel slightly better now after posting this stuff here :-) Nish
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I am running Windows 2000 professional SP2. I am not using Easy CD creator. I am using Nero Burning ROM software that came with my CD writer. I have enabled DMA for all my IDE channels. I have connected the CD writer as primary slave. The CD writer is a Benq 20X Write/10 X ReWrite 40X Read drive. http://www.benq.com The 10 CDRs [of which 7 now occupy the waste basket] were Acer CDRs [the cover says 1X~24X] On two occasions the entire burn process finished, I got an okay message, the CD ejected, but I could not read from them. The drives [the burner and my old CD drive[ refused to even recognize them as CDs. Nish
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John Simmons made some good points below... Try a CD at 1x or 2x. It may take a while (go read a book :)) but it'll give you an idea. Also, if you can "easily" see through the CDR, chances are it's cheap quality. Just remember if you disable ACPI to remove all PCI devices except the video card before you do so. Let Windows do its thing and then put them back in. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 1) Check to make sure the CD's you're buring are capable of being recorded at 20x (a lot of the cheapest ones ARE NOT). The CDRs were Acer CDRs that claimed to support writing at 24X. But I wasn't sure after the first one crashed out, so I wrote the rest of them at 4X which was the lowest speed available. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 2) It might be that you've experienced ACPI hell. All of your devices (or at least the majority of them) are asigned the same IRQ. If you're buring from one IDE device to another IDE device, this could present a problem. But then how come 3 CDRs got successfully burned. Out of 10 write attempts 3 were successful and 7 failed. Even the failures lacked consistancy. Some failed immediately. others failed at the end. Twice everything went smooth at the GUI level and I even got a CD successfully created message only to discover seconds later that it was a cruel trick played on me. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 3) It could be that your CD writer software is crap, but I don't think this is the problem. Nero. I think it's supposed to be one of the better ones. Thanks for your suggestions anyway. Nish
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What's the exact error? Is it a buffer underrun? Nero has a display log of everything it's doing while burning. What does it say? Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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I don't thinkit's unreasonable for the burner's manufacturer to assume that the person using the device is at least smarter than a bag of hammers. 1) Check to make sure the CD's you're buring are capable of being recorded at 20x (a lot of the cheapest ones ARE NOT). 2) It might be that you've experienced ACPI hell. All of your devices (or at least the majority of them) are asigned the same IRQ. If you're buring from one IDE device to another IDE device, this could present a problem. 3) It could be that your CD writer software is crap, but I don't think this is the problem. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 1) Check to make sure the CD's you're buring are capable of being recorded at 20x (a lot of the cheapest ones ARE NOT). The CDRs were Acer CDRs that claimed to support writing at 24X. But I wasn't sure after the first one crashed out, so I wrote the rest of them at 4X which was the lowest speed available. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 2) It might be that you've experienced ACPI hell. All of your devices (or at least the majority of them) are asigned the same IRQ. If you're buring from one IDE device to another IDE device, this could present a problem. But then how come 3 CDRs got successfully burned. Out of 10 write attempts 3 were successful and 7 failed. Even the failures lacked consistancy. Some failed immediately. others failed at the end. Twice everything went smooth at the GUI level and I even got a CD successfully created message only to discover seconds later that it was a cruel trick played on me. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 3) It could be that your CD writer software is crap, but I don't think this is the problem. Nero. I think it's supposed to be one of the better ones. Thanks for your suggestions anyway. Nish
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I am running Windows 2000 professional SP2. I am not using Easy CD creator. I am using Nero Burning ROM software that came with my CD writer. I have enabled DMA for all my IDE channels. I have connected the CD writer as primary slave. The CD writer is a Benq 20X Write/10 X ReWrite 40X Read drive. http://www.benq.com The 10 CDRs [of which 7 now occupy the waste basket] were Acer CDRs [the cover says 1X~24X] On two occasions the entire burn process finished, I got an okay message, the CD ejected, but I could not read from them. The drives [the burner and my old CD drive[ refused to even recognize them as CDs. Nish
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You may have gotten [:p] a bad batch of disks, but I'd suggest ditching the Acer CDRs, I haven't used that brand myself, but I know a couple of other people who have had similar experiences with the Acer brand. Get a box on Verbatims if you can, I have only ever had 1 coaster with them. Bruce Duncan CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I tried to console myself with that possibility, but somehow the probabilities for 7 CDRs out of 10 CDRs being crappy were so low that despite my sincere attempts, I failed to convince myself as to the absolute well-being of my CD Writer. Not so fast grass-hopper, if the 10 CD's were in a single package there is an excellent chance that they were made in the same batch, probably even consecutively. I once bought a 25 pack of cheap generic CD's that were all junk.
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: if the 10 CD's were in a single package there is an excellent chance that they were made in the same batch, probably even consecutively How come 3 of them worked well :( If all 10 had screwed up, I'd have felt easier accepting that possibility. Nish
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You may have gotten [:p] a bad batch of disks, but I'd suggest ditching the Acer CDRs, I haven't used that brand myself, but I know a couple of other people who have had similar experiences with the Acer brand. Get a box on Verbatims if you can, I have only ever had 1 coaster with them. Bruce Duncan CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
Hi everyone. My name's Bruce. And I suffer from VB.Bruce Duncan wrote: You may have gotten [:p] a bad batch of disks, but I'd suggest ditching the Acer CDRs, I haven't used that brand myself, but I know a couple of other people who have had similar experiences with the Acer brand. Oh! Well, then I guess I'll get myself some non-Acer CDRs tomorrow and try again. But if the problem persists, I won't have a choice but to swap this drive for some other drive. I won't rest till I can burn 7 CDs in a row, and all of them successfully. Yeah, '7'! Nish
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John Simmons made some good points below... Try a CD at 1x or 2x. It may take a while (go read a book :)) but it'll give you an idea. Also, if you can "easily" see through the CDR, chances are it's cheap quality. Just remember if you disable ACPI to remove all PCI devices except the video card before you do so. Let Windows do its thing and then put them back in. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Try a CD at 1x or 2x I wanted to do that. But the lowest speed in the drop down combo box was 4x :( Nish p.s. What's all this ACPI stuff?
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What's the exact error? Is it a buffer underrun? Nero has a display log of everything it's doing while burning. What does it say? Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Is it a buffer underrun? Yes. I remember those two words - "buffer underrun". They appeared during the failed writes. I also remember "bad write block". Nish
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Is it a buffer underrun? Yes. I remember those two words - "buffer underrun". They appeared during the failed writes. I also remember "bad write block". Nish
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Just a list of typical ?s... How much RAM do you have? How many programs are open? How fast is the computer? How clean is the filesystem? What kind of HDD are we talking about? 20x is almost a 3mb a second transfer. Chances are the computer isn't keeping up with the burn process. When a CDR is burned, the data used comes from a buffer in memory that's continually updated. If that buffer doesn't get updated quick enough it runs out, and you get this error. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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Bruce Duncan wrote: You may have gotten [:p] a bad batch of disks, but I'd suggest ditching the Acer CDRs, I haven't used that brand myself, but I know a couple of other people who have had similar experiences with the Acer brand. Oh! Well, then I guess I'll get myself some non-Acer CDRs tomorrow and try again. But if the problem persists, I won't have a choice but to swap this drive for some other drive. I won't rest till I can burn 7 CDs in a row, and all of them successfully. Yeah, '7'! Nish
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Good luck :rose: As for drives, I'd recommend Ricoh, but its the only make I have ever used. So take my recommendation with a grain of salt. Bruce Duncan CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Is it a buffer underrun? Yes. I remember those two words - "buffer underrun". They appeared during the failed writes. I also remember "bad write block". Nish
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I also remember "bad write block". It's a side effect from the buffer underrun I believe. Can't write what wasn't read. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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Just a list of typical ?s... How much RAM do you have? How many programs are open? How fast is the computer? How clean is the filesystem? What kind of HDD are we talking about? 20x is almost a 3mb a second transfer. Chances are the computer isn't keeping up with the burn process. When a CDR is burned, the data used comes from a buffer in memory that's continually updated. If that buffer doesn't get updated quick enough it runs out, and you get this error. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
P-III 800 MHz/256 MB RAM 16 GB IBM UDMA-II HDD And I was writing at 4X [the lowest allowed speed I could get] Nish
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Good luck :rose: As for drives, I'd recommend Ricoh, but its the only make I have ever used. So take my recommendation with a grain of salt. Bruce Duncan CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
Hi everyone. My name's Bruce. And I suffer from VB.Bruce Duncan wrote: Good luck Thanks Bruce Nish
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I also remember "bad write block". It's a side effect from the buffer underrun I believe. Can't write what wasn't read. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
Jeremy Falcon wrote: It's a side effect from the buffer underrun I believe. Can't write what wasn't read I am hoping now that the writer is alright and that the problem was that my CDRs were so bad that they wouldnt write well over 2X Nish
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P-III 800 MHz/256 MB RAM 16 GB IBM UDMA-II HDD And I was writing at 4X [the lowest allowed speed I could get] Nish
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Well, you got the system. See if you can find updates for your IDE controller and burner. Also, defrag your filesystem because a fragmented FS can slow access big time. And, don't buy Acer CDRs (this may actually be the cause). :) I used to have an Acer CD-RW drive and it wouldn't burn 99% of the CDRs I stuck in it. Try at least one high quality CDR (like a blue bottom Verbatim) if you can get your hands on one. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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Yesterday I bought a new Benq 20X CD Burner. First two CD write attempts failed. 2 CDs lost. Then luckily James Johnson gave me those tips about DMA and I managed to write one CD. From 7 other attempts [I bought only 10 CDRs] 5 more failed, 2 were successful. Means 30% success rate. Blasted sick stupid mother fucking CD burner!!!!!!! I am taking the damn prick bastard back tomorrow and getting some other brand CD writer. Imagine this happening to me!!! Why me??????? Every single fucking time!!!!!!!!!!! It's gotta happen to me!!!!!!! 1.1 Billion people in India and yet I am chosen out for all these special happenings!!!!!!!! Crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad: :mad: :mad:
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If you do get another drive, I have had great success with Sony's CD-RW drives. Jon Sagara There is no spoon. Best Miniputt score: 21
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Yesterday I bought a new Benq 20X CD Burner. First two CD write attempts failed. 2 CDs lost. Then luckily James Johnson gave me those tips about DMA and I managed to write one CD. From 7 other attempts [I bought only 10 CDRs] 5 more failed, 2 were successful. Means 30% success rate. Blasted sick stupid mother fucking CD burner!!!!!!! I am taking the damn prick bastard back tomorrow and getting some other brand CD writer. Imagine this happening to me!!! Why me??????? Every single fucking time!!!!!!!!!!! It's gotta happen to me!!!!!!! 1.1 Billion people in India and yet I am chosen out for all these special happenings!!!!!!!! Crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad: :mad: :mad:
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:(( Hopefully the media is the problem and not the drive :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Also, don't discount the possibility that the burner may be OK and the blank CD's may be crap. I tried to console myself with that possibility, but somehow the probabilities for 7 CDRs out of 10 CDRs being crappy were so low that despite my sincere attempts, I failed to convince myself as to the absolute well-being of my CD Writer. Nish
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Hey Nish - I've had a box of 10 dud disks, and I know a bunch of guys who've had the same. It's frustrating but it happens. You'll find that eventually you'll settle on a brand of CD that works for you and then go to ridiculous lengths to ensure you only use that brand for fear of the dreaded coffee coaster. AND - if you do create dead disks then stick them in the microwave for 5 seconds and watch :D cheers, Chris Maunder
