Damn Philips head screws!!!!
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What would you recommend? Straight slots that allow lower torque? Torx heads that use more expensive bits? Security heads that only screw in, not out? Allen heads that fill with paint or smooth out to a round hole after two uses? Rivets? We should be able to come up with something better, given all the talent here. Come on everybody! Let's invent a better fastener for PJ!:laugh:
Roger Wright wrote: Let's invent a better fastener for PJ! Whats needed is a couple of standard sizes and better metals for the screws. Also most screws should have a built on spring washer. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Ever heard of Robertson? It's best damn thing since sliced bread. I just wish you yanks would use it instead of that damn philips crap you seem to be so damned proud of and inflict the rest of the world with. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
PJ Arends wrote: Ever heard of Robertson? No, what is it ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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PJ Arends wrote: Ever heard of Robertson? No, what is it ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
http://www.robertsonscrew.com/ Robertson screws have a square hole in the head. The screws stick to the driver, so that you put them on the driver and can drive them in any direction, they never fall off. They never slip off the screw driver. And Roger working in the hardware business should know about them. If you have never heard of them, and they are not available where you are, You should import them. Once you use them, you will never want to use any other. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Ever heard of Robertson? It's best damn thing since sliced bread. I just wish you yanks would use it instead of that damn philips crap you seem to be so damned proud of and inflict the rest of the world with. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
PJ Arends wrote: Ever heard of Robertson? Nope. Never heard of it. I never heard of Reed-Prince, either, until I bought a screwdriver set from Sears that had a driver for it. Much like a Phillips, but without the flat bottom; more pointy. The trick with the Phillips is to use the right size - a #2 will work on a #3 screw, but it tends to slip and mill down the tines until there's nothing left but a conic hole. While we're at it, what's up with the BA thread? My damned darts need a touch-up on the threads of the shafts, but there's no way to get a die here for the 2BA thread. I found a tap, but lacking a lathe there's not much point in trying to make my own barrels. Much too hard to whittle.
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http://www.robertsonscrew.com/ Robertson screws have a square hole in the head. The screws stick to the driver, so that you put them on the driver and can drive them in any direction, they never fall off. They never slip off the screw driver. And Roger working in the hardware business should know about them. If you have never heard of them, and they are not available where you are, You should import them. Once you use them, you will never want to use any other. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
We have the tools, but no source of the screws through Ace. They aren't sold here under that name, though. I think they're referred to as "square-recess" cap screws, and they're fairly useless for flush mounting applications without an expensive chamfering process.
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Roger Wright wrote: Let's invent a better fastener for PJ! Whats needed is a couple of standard sizes and better metals for the screws. Also most screws should have a built on spring washer. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: screws should have a built on spring washer. What for?:confused: A serrated washer is better for grounding, and a split washer is better for mechanical holding strength. What would a spring washer be good for?
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We have the tools, but no source of the screws through Ace. They aren't sold here under that name, though. I think they're referred to as "square-recess" cap screws, and they're fairly useless for flush mounting applications without an expensive chamfering process.
Robertson screws are all we can get here. The hardware stores don't even bother stocking any other kind because they would never sell. When we get equipment from the US (usually electrical) that comes with mounting screws, the screws get tossed in favour of Robertson. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Robertson screws are all we can get here. The hardware stores don't even bother stocking any other kind because they would never sell. When we get equipment from the US (usually electrical) that comes with mounting screws, the screws get tossed in favour of Robertson. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
That would tend to explain why Ace Hardware isn't bragging about our performance in Canada:laugh:
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****Colin Davies wrote: screws should have a built on spring washer. What for?:confused: A serrated washer is better for grounding, and a split washer is better for mechanical holding strength. What would a spring washer be good for?
Roger Wright wrote: What for? Sorry you are right Mr Wright. Often here we call a split washer a spring washer. Doh Ignorance more than anything. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Robertson screws are all we can get here. The hardware stores don't even bother stocking any other kind because they would never sell. When we get equipment from the US (usually electrical) that comes with mounting screws, the screws get tossed in favour of Robertson. --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
PJ Arends wrote: Robertson screws are all we can get here. Wow, Straight up PJ I have never seen one here or in Aussie or Latin America or Asia. I sure can see them as a good idea as hex-keys and allen-keys are. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
