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    This is how Sadam lived his last moments. Link This story was told to the BBC by one of the few witnesses on his execution. By the way i have heard that his brother is executed but i cann't confirm it anywhere. Is that true?

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      This is how Sadam lived his last moments. Link This story was told to the BBC by one of the few witnesses on his execution. By the way i have heard that his brother is executed but i cann't confirm it anywhere. Is that true?

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      Jonathan Darka
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      Your link is wrong - it comes back to your article rather than the BBC.


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        Your link is wrong - it comes back to your article rather than the BBC.


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        Sorry, it is modified now

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          This is how Sadam lived his last moments. Link This story was told to the BBC by one of the few witnesses on his execution. By the way i have heard that his brother is executed but i cann't confirm it anywhere. Is that true?

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          The radio news headlines this morning said his half brother and one other had been executed thism orning.

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            This is how Sadam lived his last moments. Link This story was told to the BBC by one of the few witnesses on his execution. By the way i have heard that his brother is executed but i cann't confirm it anywhere. Is that true?

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            Ghouls.

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              The radio news headlines this morning said his half brother and one other had been executed thism orning.

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              I read about that, but it was not officialy confirmed by the IRAQ govenment, so i was confused if it is true or not. Probably it is.

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                Ghouls.

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                Christian Graus
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                Yep, that's my thought.  I refuse to see it, for reasons that have nothing to do with my opinion of Saddam, or any other person involved.

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                  This is how Sadam lived his last moments. Link This story was told to the BBC by one of the few witnesses on his execution. By the way i have heard that his brother is executed but i cann't confirm it anywhere. Is that true?

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                  I wonder how these[^] guys lived their last moments?

                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                    I wonder how these[^] guys lived their last moments?

                    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                    You keep posting that same link, but as yet have offered no commentary to explain why. Do you just like to see people hang, or is there some point to it?


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                      You keep posting that same link, but as yet have offered no commentary to explain why. Do you just like to see people hang, or is there some point to it?


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                      I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                        The radio news headlines this morning said his half brother and one other had been executed thism orning.

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                        There are also unconfirmed reports that one of the two people they hanged today was decapitated :omg:

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                          I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                          You need to consider two things: 1) No western country other than the USA has carried out, allows or endorses executions in the twenty first century. 2) We are not in the 1940's anymore, sorry... What reaction did you expect?


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                            I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            In ancient Greece they used to kill people using a brazen bull. The bull was a hollow brass sculpture that the victim was put into and then they lit a fire underneath it. The screams of the victim reportedly sounded like the bellowing of a bull. Didn't see those damn leftists complain about that either. But one little hanging and they get their panties in a bunch. :mad:

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                              There are also unconfirmed reports that one of the two people they hanged today was decapitated :omg:

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                              Wjousts wrote:

                              There are also unconfirmed reports that one of the two people they hanged today was decapitated

                              Very nasty. There is no excuse to justify this level of barbarism.

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                                I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                                Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                by leftists

                                No, by Communnist partisans. Get a dictionary. The terms are not synonymous.

                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view

                                What are you talking about? I'm curious. How is the "leftist world view" being promoted?

                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world...

                                You believe that, but what is it based on? It seems your greatest criticisms are always about what others would think or would do if a theoretical event occurred.

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                                  I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google.

                                  I'm not sure what inherently leftist view you are referring to. For my own part, I am opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances, but won't be losing any sleep over Saddam's demise, which is but one violent death among hundreds of thousands in Iraq. The concern that many had regarding the execution was that its overtly sectarian atmosphere bodes ill for Iraq's future governance.

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                                    I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                                    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                    What is funny is you chose as an analogy Mussolini's execution, rather than Nuremberg trial. Maybe a freudian slip about your belief on the fairness of SH trial?


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                                      I just find it a fascinating juxtapositioning of similar historic events. The first is a brutal public lynching of not only a toppled dictator, but several other people who happened to be associated with him by leftists. That event does not seem to have inspired a great deal of public debate at the time. Now, a toppled dictator, given a trial and access to every legal resource he denied to so many others, will be used as a pretext to promote an inherently leftist world view for as long as humanity has access to google. To me, its seems symptomatic of a rather bizarre and worrisome direction western civilization seems to be determined to take. If Saddam ahd been taken out by a more left leaning government, under exactly the same circumstances, his execution would have been a cause for celebration around the world. But, a more right wing government is not allowed to bask in any kind of success, every possible negative nuance becomes grossly exagerated and amplified by the power of the media and the internet to put the least favorable spin on the situation. It is all very Orwellian, and very disturbing, especially as there appears to be no means of peacefully contending with it.

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                      It amazes me that in today's society, we have to be more humane than the perpetrators of the vilest crimes one human can inflict on another. I constantly hear cries for the punishment to be "life imprisonment". But what the "do-gooders" fail to think about are the people that are charged with keeping these people incarcerated. Who wouldn't like to be a guard in that type of facility? What does the "lifer" have to lose if he kills someone else or even kills a guard. What more can you do to him? Just life imprisonment? Tell you what, "do-gooders" ---why don't you volunteer to be the guards of these people you want to keep alive?? Then tell me one month later that you hands don't shake every time one of them is near you? Where were you when these "barbarians" you want to keep alive were torturing, maiming, slaughtering the innocents? Where were your voices then? What actions did you take? Or was it the proverbial "hand-wringing" that liberals always seem to be in a quandary of what to do --- what should we do? --- what should we do? Count me as one that says Saddam and his ilk died much too quickly. He didn't suffer nearly enough for the crimes he committed. And if today we had just gone through WW II and tried the Nazis and found them guilty of horrendous war crimes, would you be spouting off that they should also receive "life imprisonment"? Sorry, but I believe there are crimes that need to have a final solution that includes execution, and not by lethal injection. We save that for our animals --- not for human beings that make the conscious decision to slaughter 1000s of other human beings!

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                                        It amazes me that in today's society, we have to be more humane than the perpetrators of the vilest crimes one human can inflict on another. I constantly hear cries for the punishment to be "life imprisonment". But what the "do-gooders" fail to think about are the people that are charged with keeping these people incarcerated. Who wouldn't like to be a guard in that type of facility? What does the "lifer" have to lose if he kills someone else or even kills a guard. What more can you do to him? Just life imprisonment? Tell you what, "do-gooders" ---why don't you volunteer to be the guards of these people you want to keep alive?? Then tell me one month later that you hands don't shake every time one of them is near you? Where were you when these "barbarians" you want to keep alive were torturing, maiming, slaughtering the innocents? Where were your voices then? What actions did you take? Or was it the proverbial "hand-wringing" that liberals always seem to be in a quandary of what to do --- what should we do? --- what should we do? Count me as one that says Saddam and his ilk died much too quickly. He didn't suffer nearly enough for the crimes he committed. And if today we had just gone through WW II and tried the Nazis and found them guilty of horrendous war crimes, would you be spouting off that they should also receive "life imprisonment"? Sorry, but I believe there are crimes that need to have a final solution that includes execution, and not by lethal injection. We save that for our animals --- not for human beings that make the conscious decision to slaughter 1000s of other human beings!

                                        John P.

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                                        jparken wrote:

                                        do-gooders" fail to think about are the people that are charged with keeping these people incarcerated.

                                        And I should care - Why? After all, as right-wingers on this board routinely point out - all work is voluntary, if someone doesn't like being a prison guard, he can go to night school and get another job. Simple as pie, problem solved.

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                                          jparken wrote:

                                          do-gooders" fail to think about are the people that are charged with keeping these people incarcerated.

                                          And I should care - Why? After all, as right-wingers on this board routinely point out - all work is voluntary, if someone doesn't like being a prison guard, he can go to night school and get another job. Simple as pie, problem solved.

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                                          That's the typical asshole reply I would expect from a liberal. Since THEY don't have to be the ones to do it, then the hell with it --- it's someone else's problem. Liberals just come up with their "solutions" and fail to think of any possible consequences to them. Better yet, why don't we parole these pieces of filth --- maybe one can move in next to you, and being a good liberal, you can take care of him.

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