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  • B Bradml

    Well from what I understand it is easy to get confused with Web and Windows development thanks to ASP.net. I still think that a standard browser control is the only way to go.


    Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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    Christian Graus
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    TRuth is, there are too many people jumping in at the deep end who can't swim, and so a lot of people do get confused about where their C# code is run, and what the end result is (i.e. HTML )

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      You left out one requirement - it has to be a web control, and it has to work for all current browsers.

      Add whatever requirements you like. The thing should still be within the reach of a huge corporation like Microsoft and/or a programming community with nearly four million members. My point - and I just made it again - is that there is something seriously wrong with the industry.

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      Your point is that you have an agenda. Until PE lets me say 'I want a HTML editor with these features...', your point is moot. PE today is just another Visual Basic. And, it's fundamentally flawed. Naturally, MS can write the control you're describing, but does that mean it's worth their while to do so ? Anything CAN be written, the fact that what DOES get written is a subset of that, is called 'reality' and doesn't point to any problem that I can see.

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        Your point is that you have an agenda. Until PE lets me say 'I want a HTML editor with these features...', your point is moot. PE today is just another Visual Basic. And, it's fundamentally flawed. Naturally, MS can write the control you're describing, but does that mean it's worth their while to do so ? Anything CAN be written, the fact that what DOES get written is a subset of that, is called 'reality' and doesn't point to any problem that I can see.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        the fact that what DOES get written is a subset of that, is called 'reality' and doesn't point to any problem that I can see.

        So you can't see that a broken preview window - when having the appropriate control available would have eliminated the need for a preview window altogether - is a problem? Curious...

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          Your point is that you have an agenda. Until PE lets me say 'I want a HTML editor with these features...', your point is moot. PE today is just another Visual Basic. And, it's fundamentally flawed. Naturally, MS can write the control you're describing, but does that mean it's worth their while to do so ? Anything CAN be written, the fact that what DOES get written is a subset of that, is called 'reality' and doesn't point to any problem that I can see.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          Until PE lets me say 'I want a HTML editor with these features...', your point is moot.

          You're logic here is flawed. My wife, for example, can't execute a command as simple as, "Change the oil in the car, Honey." But to say that puts her understanding of the English language on a level with Visual Basic is simply not true.

          Christian Graus wrote:

          PE today is just another Visual Basic.

          Wrong again. There is a clear and unobstructed path from Plain English as it stands today to the "apparently intelligent"(tm) PAL 3000 of tomorrow; this is not the case with Visual Basic. When Rex gets around to writing the article he's proposed, the significant differences will (or should) become clear to you. And even if this were not the case, Plain English is significantly more elegant, efficient, and easier to learn and use than Visual Basic. Visual Basic is a kluge; our language and development system is a well-tempered work of art and science. We resent the comparison.

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            Bradml wrote:

            Yes I agree in this instance, but a lot of the time to reach certain proficiency you need to make do with other peoples code

            I agree that everybody can't write everything from scratch. But shouldn't the "other people's code" in something as huge as Visual Studio, as current as .NET, and as mature as Windows include - somewhere - a drop-in wysiwyg edit control with selectable features?

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            Shoulda woulda coulda.... lamenting what should be in the face of what is doesn't serve much purpose. But... "It's your life. Spend it as you wish. "

            This statement was never false.

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