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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    You're right that he wasn't a religious person (while Jewish, he was not a Judaic Jew, for instance). At the same time, he wasn't an atheist, strictly speaking; he did not hold the belief that there was no god. A better label for him would be pantheist: the belief that everything in nature together is god.

    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: How Easter replaced Passover in modern Christianity The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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    Isn't pantheism many gods? And not just the immanence of God?

    This statement was never false.

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      The Grand Negus wrote:

      yet almost all of them would find it objectionable if I arbitrarily slapped one of them in the face. Why? On what grounds? Scientific?

      Yes. Its scientific that if you slap me on the face, it HURTS. As pain signals are sent to the brain. I find it uncomfortable. Not morally. Its on moral grounds that I don't slap you back.

      This statement was never false.

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        The Grand Negus wrote:

        I think that a normal human perspective includes concepts such as "necessary and sufficient causes" and that psychologically healthy humans require some kind of meaning in their lives. Atheism deprives a man of both of these and is therefore a perverse and sterile doctrine (or position, or belief, or conclusion, or whatever term you like).

        I disagree. While I find meaning in contemplating the divine, I think its erroneous to suggest that without it you can have no meaning in your life. There are definately Atheists who have found meaning in their lives. As well as homosexuals. This is only your opinion. And you can't dictate what another can find as meaning in their lives. That is just flat out wrong. Do I have to wish upon an afterlife to have meaning within this life? Maybe religion has screwed up people's meanings. Wasn't Jesus the one who said: "The best way for a tadpole to prepare for being a frog, is to live each and every moment faithfully as a tadpole."? That suggests to me, that our focus is rightfully placed within this life, and not worrying so much about the afterlife.

        This statement was never false.

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          Isn't pantheism many gods? And not just the immanence of God?

          This statement was never false.

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          Polytheism = "many gods". Pantheism = "god is all".

          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: How men in the Catholic Church replaced Passover with Easter The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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