MFC mailing list probes
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Hey Anyone else gets them??? The list is dead now! But I get probes on a regular basis :- Sun, 26 May 2002 06:00:03 This message is a "probe" for your subscription to the MFC list. You do not need to take any action to remain subscribed to the list, and in particular you should not reply to this message. Simply discard it now, or read on if you would like to know more about how this probing mechanism works. A "probe" is a message like the one you are reading, sent to an individual subscriber and tagged with a special signature to uniquely identify this particular subscriber (you can probably not see the signature because it is in the mail headers). If the subscriber's e-mail address is no longer valid, the message will be returned to LISTSERV and the faulty address will be removed from the list. If the subscriber's address is still valid, the message will not bounce and the user will not be deleted. The main advantage of this technique is that it can be fully automated; the list owner does not need to read a single delivery error. For a large or active list, the manpower savings can be tremendous. In fact, some lists are so large that it is virtually impossible to process delivery errors manually. Another advantage is that the special, unique signatures make it possible to accurately process delivery errors that are otherwise unintelligible, even to an experienced technical person. The drawback, however, is that this method lacks flexibility and forgiveness. Since the Internet does not provide a reliable mechanism for probing an e-mail address without actually delivering a message to the human recipient, the subscribers need to be inconvenienced with yet another "junk message". And, unlike a human list owner, LISTSERV follows a number of simple rules in determining when and whether to terminate a subscription; it doesn't remember that Maite wrote last week to warn that there might be problems with her ISP over the weekend. In particular, a common problem with automatic probes is mail gateways that return a delivery error, but do deliver the message anyway. LISTSERV has no way to know that the message was in fact delivered, and in most cases the subscriber is not aware of the existence of these "false" error reports. If this happens to you, LISTSERV will send you another message with a copy of the delivery error returned by your mail system, so that you can show it to your
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Hey Anyone else gets them??? The list is dead now! But I get probes on a regular basis :- Sun, 26 May 2002 06:00:03 This message is a "probe" for your subscription to the MFC list. You do not need to take any action to remain subscribed to the list, and in particular you should not reply to this message. Simply discard it now, or read on if you would like to know more about how this probing mechanism works. A "probe" is a message like the one you are reading, sent to an individual subscriber and tagged with a special signature to uniquely identify this particular subscriber (you can probably not see the signature because it is in the mail headers). If the subscriber's e-mail address is no longer valid, the message will be returned to LISTSERV and the faulty address will be removed from the list. If the subscriber's address is still valid, the message will not bounce and the user will not be deleted. The main advantage of this technique is that it can be fully automated; the list owner does not need to read a single delivery error. For a large or active list, the manpower savings can be tremendous. In fact, some lists are so large that it is virtually impossible to process delivery errors manually. Another advantage is that the special, unique signatures make it possible to accurately process delivery errors that are otherwise unintelligible, even to an experienced technical person. The drawback, however, is that this method lacks flexibility and forgiveness. Since the Internet does not provide a reliable mechanism for probing an e-mail address without actually delivering a message to the human recipient, the subscribers need to be inconvenienced with yet another "junk message". And, unlike a human list owner, LISTSERV follows a number of simple rules in determining when and whether to terminate a subscription; it doesn't remember that Maite wrote last week to warn that there might be problems with her ISP over the weekend. In particular, a common problem with automatic probes is mail gateways that return a delivery error, but do deliver the message anyway. LISTSERV has no way to know that the message was in fact delivered, and in most cases the subscriber is not aware of the existence of these "false" error reports. If this happens to you, LISTSERV will send you another message with a copy of the delivery error returned by your mail system, so that you can show it to your
I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
Colin Davies wrote: I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. One mailing bot caring about another. The future is here! Just kidding, Nish. :) Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 WHAT, YOU WENT TO THAT MUCH TROUBLE TRYING TO READ THIS? MY GOD, YOU MUST BE EVEN MORE BORED THAN I WAS CREATING THIS SIG!
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I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
Colin Davies wrote: I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. Oh! I didn't think of it that way. Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Colin Davies wrote: I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. One mailing bot caring about another. The future is here! Just kidding, Nish. :) Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 WHAT, YOU WENT TO THAT MUCH TROUBLE TRYING TO READ THIS? MY GOD, YOU MUST BE EVEN MORE BORED THAN I WAS CREATING THIS SIG!
Simon Walton wrote: One mailing bot caring about another. The future is here! But I wasn't accused of being a mailing bot. They said I was a posting bot! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Colin Davies wrote: I think you should be happy that somebody cares about you, Nish, even if it is an automated mail bot prober. Oh! I didn't think of it that way. Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Speaking of mail bots, that little program of yours did the testing very nicely - Thanks! I'd love to review the source to see how it's done... My free mail server is humming along nicely now; if anyone is interested, it's called DMail, and the 5-user version is free. It doesn't have a global address book, but you should be able to share a .pab file on any host among all users. Ideal for a small office with a budget to match. "What is it?" and he said, "I don't know. Let's kill it." - Ed Gadziemski
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Hey Anyone else gets them??? The list is dead now! But I get probes on a regular basis :- Sun, 26 May 2002 06:00:03 This message is a "probe" for your subscription to the MFC list. You do not need to take any action to remain subscribed to the list, and in particular you should not reply to this message. Simply discard it now, or read on if you would like to know more about how this probing mechanism works. A "probe" is a message like the one you are reading, sent to an individual subscriber and tagged with a special signature to uniquely identify this particular subscriber (you can probably not see the signature because it is in the mail headers). If the subscriber's e-mail address is no longer valid, the message will be returned to LISTSERV and the faulty address will be removed from the list. If the subscriber's address is still valid, the message will not bounce and the user will not be deleted. The main advantage of this technique is that it can be fully automated; the list owner does not need to read a single delivery error. For a large or active list, the manpower savings can be tremendous. In fact, some lists are so large that it is virtually impossible to process delivery errors manually. Another advantage is that the special, unique signatures make it possible to accurately process delivery errors that are otherwise unintelligible, even to an experienced technical person. The drawback, however, is that this method lacks flexibility and forgiveness. Since the Internet does not provide a reliable mechanism for probing an e-mail address without actually delivering a message to the human recipient, the subscribers need to be inconvenienced with yet another "junk message". And, unlike a human list owner, LISTSERV follows a number of simple rules in determining when and whether to terminate a subscription; it doesn't remember that Maite wrote last week to warn that there might be problems with her ISP over the weekend. In particular, a common problem with automatic probes is mail gateways that return a delivery error, but do deliver the message anyway. LISTSERV has no way to know that the message was in fact delivered, and in most cases the subscriber is not aware of the existence of these "false" error reports. If this happens to you, LISTSERV will send you another message with a copy of the delivery error returned by your mail system, so that you can show it to your
Ah, you remind me of something. Each time I get this mail, I want to look for the mail which describes how to unsubscribe. Or maybe we should start to send jokes or something else to the list? ;-) Martin
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Ah, you remind me of something. Each time I get this mail, I want to look for the mail which describes how to unsubscribe. Or maybe we should start to send jokes or something else to the list? ;-) Martin
Martin Speiser wrote: Or maybe we should start to send jokes or something else to the list? Nice idea! But unfortunately, it's a moderated list! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Martin Speiser wrote: Or maybe we should start to send jokes or something else to the list? Nice idea! But unfortunately, it's a moderated list! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish - Native CPian wrote: Nice idea! But unfortunately, it's a moderated list! Well, maybe the moderator has a sense for humour ;-) And as I remember, it wasn't very well moderated. I got HTML mails, mails with vcards, and so on. Are there any MFC jokes around? Martin
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Nish - Native CPian wrote: Nice idea! But unfortunately, it's a moderated list! Well, maybe the moderator has a sense for humour ;-) And as I remember, it wasn't very well moderated. I got HTML mails, mails with vcards, and so on. Are there any MFC jokes around? Martin
Martin Speiser wrote: Well, maybe the moderator has a sense for humour Yeah, we could at least have the pleasure of knowing that someone somewhere got our cool jokes :-) Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.