This shouldn't be constitutional.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: So if a ten year old boy commits murder should he be executed when he turns eighteen? Nope. He should be killed just then, cause he is not normal. It'd be an injustice to him, to allow him to grow up into a serial killer Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
:wtf: ! Don't you believe he/she could know redemption ? And I would like to know what the word "normal" means :confused: ? We're talking shit, 'cause life is a 'biz You know it is Everybody tryin' to get rich God damn! All I wanna do is live ! KoRn, Children of the Korn
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jan larsen wrote: WHAT!, it is written in the actual law that you have to be a farting old demented bastard to be president? Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Mike Mullikin "Thank you America, every night I see increasingly stupid things happening here in Australia. Then you come along and top it." - Michael Martin - The Lounge :bob:
I can see that the constitution aims at selecting mature president-material, but you have to admit that Reagan and the Bush'es seems to have escaped this filter. Mike Mullikin wrote: No Person except a natural born Citizen... I this preventing people born by caesarean operation from being elected?. :laugh: In Denmark we're also stupidly proud of our constitution and the bare mentioning of anyone breaking the constitutional laws makes the crowd go "Uuuuuh". But it is actually frequently updated (by vote) to enhance it to withstand the challenges at the current. "It could have been worse, it could have been ME!"
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I am agreeing that the system is seriously flawed if it says one thing and then does another, but I am not saying anything as to whether this individual should or should not have been held responsible for the crime he commited because I do not know what only he knows. If anything, the child should be the one to determine thier responsibility on a per-case basis, and if they decide they are responsible, they should be treated as an adult in every respect. I, personally, am against the death penalty because there are too many variables involved to be able to lump a totally definative sentance on someone. There are three primary reasons why I oppose all forms of capital punishment: 1. *I* could murder someone in my lifetime for reasons that would be wholey justified to myself, though I can't see it happening, and could be executed for this. *That* is about 1% of the reason I oppose the death penalty - no-one else can ever truely understand the real motive, and more often than not entire legal systems are constructed in such a way as to prevent them from even being portrayed. 2. Man, in some cases, may belive that the laws that are dictated to the majority of mankind where spoken by a divine all-powerful being, but I do not. Laws where written by men, and with anything written by man they were written to offer something physically, socially or mentally to thier authors and not for the good of our species, or any other alterior motive they may be translated into meaning. Although many people both present and past have had truely beautiful meanings, they are only truely beautiful in meaning to the mind that concocted them, and those that agree. "I may agree with some things, but others will disagree with me." I simply cannot subject something as sacred as life itself through a process defined by a man. That is another 1%. 3. The other 98% is based on the fact that an innocent person can in turn can be murdered by the system. I cannot justify to myself the state sponsored murder of an innocent human being, even if it means that the act of doing so may indirectly protect and save the lives of hundreds upon thousands of people. I am not God, and the fact that a man who believes in one can make a descion to that affect makes me cringe. To be perfectly honest with you, if faced with the choice of an executioner I would rather put a bullet through my own brain than chance my oppositions. I will leave these descions to those of us that are able to justify anythink to them
I would also add against death penalty the inalienable right to every human being to live, whatever the human being. I find also disturbing that a State allows itself to do something it forbids to its citizens. We're talking shit, 'cause life is a 'biz You know it is Everybody tryin' to get rich God damn! All I wanna do is live ! KoRn, Children of the Korn
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****Matt Newman wrote: he did commit murder and it doesn't matter what age you are it is still wrong. So if a ten year old boy commits murder should he be executed when he turns eighteen? After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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A man was just executed for a crime he commited when he was 17 years old. If you are considered incapable of making rational choises and are unable legally to sign contracts, vote or drink alchol, then why should you be punished the same way an adult is? This is common sense and follows simple geometric logic. I am embarrased that we are still such barbarians, and we will look back on this time and realize we are no better than the evil slave traders and Native American killers of our past with such aburdity such as circumcision, and executing crimminals for crimes they committed as minors. Here's the CNN link: CNN After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Bleeding fucking heart liberals.... The kid intentionally killed somebody. Even if he were found legally insane, I'd still want him put out of our misery. In fact, they should ease the restrictions on felonies punishable by death. People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. People that kill someone should get the chair. People that rape should be beheaded. Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. Bank robbers should be shot. Terrorists should be bombed to the stone age. I don't care what their sex, age, religion, or current mental state is, they should all be put to death right fuckin now. In the case of murder or rape, the victims' families should be given the honor of taking them out personally, and it should be televised. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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You feel exactly the same way I do. This is very strange. I would have written the same thing you did. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Me too - I have never been able to accept that the State has the right to kill someone convicted of a crime, for the same reasons. So far, resurrection is something only Jesus has managed, and I somehow doubt the ability of the State to repeat that feat if they get it wrong. ;) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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No, he should be executed before he turns 11. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: No, he should be executed before he turns 11. Well your opinion doesn't count because you're from Texas, and people from Texas are insane. They just love to kill people down there. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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Bleeding fucking heart liberals.... The kid intentionally killed somebody. Even if he were found legally insane, I'd still want him put out of our misery. In fact, they should ease the restrictions on felonies punishable by death. People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. People that kill someone should get the chair. People that rape should be beheaded. Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. Bank robbers should be shot. Terrorists should be bombed to the stone age. I don't care what their sex, age, religion, or current mental state is, they should all be put to death right fuckin now. In the case of murder or rape, the victims' families should be given the honor of taking them out personally, and it should be televised. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Bleeding f***ing heart liberals.... Once again, you are from Texas, and everyone there is INSANE! Life means nothing in the lone star state because you guys are just a bunch of immature cowboys. There are two places I don't like: the South East and Texas. Just too many rednecks, and racist Klans men. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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Bleeding fucking heart liberals.... The kid intentionally killed somebody. Even if he were found legally insane, I'd still want him put out of our misery. In fact, they should ease the restrictions on felonies punishable by death. People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. People that kill someone should get the chair. People that rape should be beheaded. Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. Bank robbers should be shot. Terrorists should be bombed to the stone age. I don't care what their sex, age, religion, or current mental state is, they should all be put to death right fuckin now. In the case of murder or rape, the victims' families should be given the honor of taking them out personally, and it should be televised. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: and it should be televised I agree 100% Regardz Colin J Davies
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Bleeding fucking heart liberals.... The kid intentionally killed somebody. Even if he were found legally insane, I'd still want him put out of our misery. In fact, they should ease the restrictions on felonies punishable by death. People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. People that kill someone should get the chair. People that rape should be beheaded. Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. Bank robbers should be shot. Terrorists should be bombed to the stone age. I don't care what their sex, age, religion, or current mental state is, they should all be put to death right fuckin now. In the case of murder or rape, the victims' families should be given the honor of taking them out personally, and it should be televised. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. sure'nuff ya ain't a real texan if ya don't drink and drive ya l'l damnyankee John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. They should be lynched. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Bank robbers should be shot How about banks robbing people? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: People that kill someone should get the chair. including the judge, the jury, the prosecutor and the excecutioner? Anyone without a tail should be shot.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Bleeding f***ing heart liberals.... Once again, you are from Texas, and everyone there is INSANE! Life means nothing in the lone star state because you guys are just a bunch of immature cowboys. There are two places I don't like: the South East and Texas. Just too many rednecks, and racist Klans men. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: No, he should be executed before he turns 11. Well your opinion doesn't count because you're from Texas, and people from Texas are insane. They just love to kill people down there. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
We're probably the most sane group of folks you'll ever meet. C'mon down here, and we'll talk. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Bleeding f***ing heart liberals.... Once again, you are from Texas, and everyone there is INSANE! Life means nothing in the lone star state because you guys are just a bunch of immature cowboys. There are two places I don't like: the South East and Texas. Just too many rednecks, and racist Klans men. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Racists are everywhere, not just the south, so get off your holier-than-thou high horse. Let's talk about racism. Our goverment endorses race-specific (and race-restricted) groups, ie the black causus, the hispanic caucus, the asian caucus, the american indian caucus, etc, etc.. See anything missing there? I sure do, and you can bet that one holy mother of all stinking complaints would be heard if someone even dared to suggest that a white caucus be formed. Why? Because some why guy (and groups of white guys) had slaves or oppressed some ethnic group. Well guess what - those ethic groups are guilty of the same fucking thing. As long as there's people like you running around pointing fingers and crying "racist" every time a white guy farts in the direction of a black/hispanic/asian/indian guy, we're gonna have these kinds of fuckin problems. Your apparent psychic ability to determine that everyone from the south is a racist, and then proclaiming it to heights of every mountain doesn't make you any more righteous about it than anyone else, and I'm quite frankly tired of the pissy rhetoric than you and your kind spew on a constant fuckin basis. All ethnic groups have made racist mistakes, and it's about time that everyone just fix the damn problem, bury the fuckin hatchet, and get on with their insignificant and misrerable little lives. What's done is done. Someone got hurt, and that's really a crying fucking shame. It's best that we move the fuck on as a (hopefully) wiser and more accepting culture, and that sure as fuck includes you Martin. Should we also be more tolerant of people who break the law, not only NO but FUCK NO. Let's take that wacko, Andrea Yates - she killed all of her kids, and had to chase one of them down so she could drag him back to the bathtub to drown him. IMHO, she should be launched into the fucking sun for what she did. There's many other criminal types, too, that I think get off too lightly. Unless we put the fear of fucking god in them, they're gonna keep killing, raping, robbing, and other crap normal people don't do. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: People that drive drunk should be shot right there on the road side. sure'nuff ya ain't a real texan if ya don't drink and drive ya l'l damnyankee John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Cattle rustlers and horse thieves should be hung. They should be lynched. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Bank robbers should be shot How about banks robbing people? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: People that kill someone should get the chair. including the judge, the jury, the prosecutor and the excecutioner? Anyone without a tail should be shot.
Chickenshit anonymous posts aren't worthy of my attention. Just letting you know that I read it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Chickenshit anonymous posts aren't worthy of my attention. Just letting you know that I read it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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We're probably the most sane group of folks you'll ever meet. C'mon down here, and we'll talk. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: C'mon down here, and we'll talk No way. You guys talk with your guns and electric chairs.:-D After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
