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    TClarke
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    I found something that made me blink with its absurdity the other day and what was more absurd was the defense the developer used when confronted with it. while looking through countless strings storing SQL queries I noticed they were all written as so:

    private static final String SQL = ""

    • " SELECT "
    • " nvl( vss.structure_address, "
    • " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, "
      etc...

    When I asked him about the first empty string he looked at me as though I was suggesting replacing all hiss method calls with gotos "You can't just add a sting to nothing you know!" he snarled "you need an empty base" :laugh:

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      I found something that made me blink with its absurdity the other day and what was more absurd was the defense the developer used when confronted with it. while looking through countless strings storing SQL queries I noticed they were all written as so:

      private static final String SQL = ""

      • " SELECT "
      • " nvl( vss.structure_address, "
      • " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, "
        etc...

      When I asked him about the first empty string he looked at me as though I was suggesting replacing all hiss method calls with gotos "You can't just add a sting to nothing you know!" he snarled "you need an empty base" :laugh:

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      Luc Pattyn
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      TClarke wrote:

      private static final String SQL = "" + " SELECT " + " nvl( vss.structure_address, " + " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no," etc...

      Without the "" on the first line, you couldn't start the second line with a + hence the indentation might be at risk, i.e. the third and following lines might not align with the second one; this may become very important when the code is worthwhile and is likely be published on one or more forums. BTW: the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

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        I found something that made me blink with its absurdity the other day and what was more absurd was the defense the developer used when confronted with it. while looking through countless strings storing SQL queries I noticed they were all written as so:

        private static final String SQL = ""

        • " SELECT "
        • " nvl( vss.structure_address, "
        • " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, "
          etc...

        When I asked him about the first empty string he looked at me as though I was suggesting replacing all hiss method calls with gotos "You can't just add a sting to nothing you know!" he snarled "you need an empty base" :laugh:

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        Pete OHanlon
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        This reminds me of a consultancy developer who wrote all of his SQL statements like this:

        "SELECT field1, \r\n" +
        "       field2, \r\n" + 
        "       field3 \r\n" +
        "FROM \r\n" +
        "       myTable \r\n";
        

        It still makes me shudder.

        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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          TClarke wrote:

          private static final String SQL = "" + " SELECT " + " nvl( vss.structure_address, " + " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no," etc...

          Without the "" on the first line, you couldn't start the second line with a + hence the indentation might be at risk, i.e. the third and following lines might not align with the second one; this may become very important when the code is worthwhile and is likely be published on one or more forums. BTW: the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

          Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]


          this weeks tips: - make Visual display line numbers: Tools/Options/TextEditor/AllLanguages/General - show exceptions with ToString() to see all information - before you ask a question here, search CodeProject, then Google


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          TClarke
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          If it had just been down to him being a format obsessive I would have let it slide but he claimed it was not possible to start a string with a space unless you concatenated it to a blank string. Which is of course complete bollocks :) Also this SQL was just going off to run in a database, it wouldn't be seen by anyone but developers on the team, none of which would be any less capable of reading the code if it wasn't aligned like that

          Luc Pattyn wrote:

          BTW: the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

          Sure. The byte code comes out the same, he didn't know that though :)

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            This reminds me of a consultancy developer who wrote all of his SQL statements like this:

            "SELECT field1, \r\n" +
            "       field2, \r\n" + 
            "       field3 \r\n" +
            "FROM \r\n" +
            "       myTable \r\n";
            

            It still makes me shudder.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            TClarke
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            what are those \r characters doing there?

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            • T TClarke

              what are those \r characters doing there?

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              BadKarma
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              Isn't that the Cariage Return code Like '\n' is the new line feed code.

              codito ergo sum

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                Isn't that the Cariage Return code Like '\n' is the new line feed code.

                codito ergo sum

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Certainly is. He put them in to format them so they would appear nice if ever they were printed out from code.

                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                • T TClarke

                  I found something that made me blink with its absurdity the other day and what was more absurd was the defense the developer used when confronted with it. while looking through countless strings storing SQL queries I noticed they were all written as so:

                  private static final String SQL = ""

                  • " SELECT "
                  • " nvl( vss.structure_address, "
                  • " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, "
                    etc...

                  When I asked him about the first empty string he looked at me as though I was suggesting replacing all hiss method calls with gotos "You can't just add a sting to nothing you know!" he snarled "you need an empty base" :laugh:

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                  KarstenK
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                  the coder wants readable code, so it isnt such a horror.:sigh:

                  Greetings from Germany

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                  • L Luc Pattyn

                    TClarke wrote:

                    private static final String SQL = "" + " SELECT " + " nvl( vss.structure_address, " + " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no," etc...

                    Without the "" on the first line, you couldn't start the second line with a + hence the indentation might be at risk, i.e. the third and following lines might not align with the second one; this may become very important when the code is worthwhile and is likely be published on one or more forums. BTW: the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

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                    this weeks tips: - make Visual display line numbers: Tools/Options/TextEditor/AllLanguages/General - show exceptions with ToString() to see all information - before you ask a question here, search CodeProject, then Google


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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Luc Pattyn wrote:

                    the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

                    But the string concatenation that has been used is pretty costly right?:confused:

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                      the coder wants readable code, so it isnt such a horror.:sigh:

                      Greetings from Germany

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      But a horror for the compiler. :confused:

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Certainly is. He put them in to format them so they would appear nice if ever they were printed out from code.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                        Environment.NewLine is rather really environment-friendly right?:)

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                          Luc Pattyn wrote:

                          the code itself is OK, the compiler does the concatenation for you.

                          But the string concatenation that has been used is pretty costly right?:confused:

                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          Compilers are smart enough to understand that the concatenation of two literals yields a bigger literal. They don't generate run-time code to get that done. Also -- not applicable in this case -- the CLR compilers are known to use a StringBuilder if your code is performing complex concatenation involving not just literals, even when the source does not call for a StringBuilder explicitly. :)

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                          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                            Environment.NewLine is rather really environment-friendly right?:)

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            It is, but don't tell him that. The real WTF is formatting this out the way he did though.

                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                              But a horror for the compiler. :confused:

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              compilers don't have feelings. they cannot be horrified. ;)

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                This reminds me of a consultancy developer who wrote all of his SQL statements like this:

                                "SELECT field1, \r\n" +
                                "       field2, \r\n" + 
                                "       field3 \r\n" +
                                "FROM \r\n" +
                                "       myTable \r\n";
                                

                                It still makes me shudder.

                                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                I would do that as:

                                @"
                                SELECT field1,
                                field2,
                                field3
                                FROM
                                mytable
                                ";

                                It still puts the newlines in the string for when I dump a CommandText to a log.

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                                  But a horror for the compiler. :confused:

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                                  KarstenK
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                                  The compiler makes one string of it all and so the empty string is "Over the hills". I like readable code so much, that I often write a little more code and comments and think about value and class names up to 10 minutes. It helps me to make a 'master architecture' for my work. It has often paid off, because I can easy reuse code. I have to maintain 6 projects in which a lot of code is reused. The changes and enhancements for Vista I wrote 1 time and use it 6 times.:cool:

                                  Greetings from Germany

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    This reminds me of a consultancy developer who wrote all of his SQL statements like this:

                                    "SELECT field1, \r\n" +
                                    "       field2, \r\n" + 
                                    "       field3 \r\n" +
                                    "FROM \r\n" +
                                    "       myTable \r\n";
                                    

                                    It still makes me shudder.

                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    That makes sense sometimes, especially if you're debugging [or logging rather] the actual SQL code sent to the DBMS.

                                    -- Smell-o-vision users, insert nostril tubes now

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                                      That makes sense sometimes, especially if you're debugging [or logging rather] the actual SQL code sent to the DBMS.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      To be honest, the time it takes you to do this is wasted time - especially, as I noted in the OP, when you are a consultant and thus billing by the hour.

                                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                      • T TClarke

                                        I found something that made me blink with its absurdity the other day and what was more absurd was the defense the developer used when confronted with it. while looking through countless strings storing SQL queries I noticed they were all written as so:

                                        private static final String SQL = ""

                                        • " SELECT "
                                        • " nvl( vss.structure_address, "
                                        • " ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, "
                                          etc...

                                        When I asked him about the first empty string he looked at me as though I was suggesting replacing all hiss method calls with gotos "You can't just add a sting to nothing you know!" he snarled "you need an empty base" :laugh:

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                                        Adam Maras
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                                        This is why I like the @"string" literal operator in C#.

                                        private static final String SQL = @"SELECT
                                        nvl( vss.structure_address,
                                        ifsapp.serial_structure_template_api.get_pos(top_part_no, ...";

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                                          This reminds me of a consultancy developer who wrote all of his SQL statements like this:

                                          "SELECT field1, \r\n" +
                                          "       field2, \r\n" + 
                                          "       field3 \r\n" +
                                          "FROM \r\n" +
                                          "       myTable \r\n";
                                          

                                          It still makes me shudder.

                                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                          joebeam
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                                          no joke...this is from a code generator developed by an earlier employee. SQL = "INSERT INTO Orders (" & _ " OrderID, " & _ " CustomerID, " & _ " EmployeeID, " & _ " OrderDate, " & _ " RequiredDate, " & _ " ShippedDate, " & _ " ShipVia, " & _ " Freight, " & _ " ShipName, " & _ " ShipAddress, " & _ " ShipCity, " & _ " ShipRegion, " & _ " ShipPostalCode, " & _ " ShipCountry " & _ " )" & _ "VALUES (" & _ "'" & Orders.OrderID & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.CustomerID & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.EmployeeID & "', " & _ DataCommonFunctions.SQLDate(Orders.OrderDate) & ", " & _ DataCommonFunctions.SQLDate(Orders.RequiredDate) & ", " & _ DataCommonFunctions.SQLDate(Orders.ShippedDate) & ", " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipVia & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.Freight & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipName & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipAddress & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipCity & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipRegion & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipPostalCode & "', " & _ "'" & Orders.ShipCountry & "') " Sql Injection anyone?!? Whenever I put sql in code it's always on one line and I'm using parameters!

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