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    RoswellNX
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    I always thought that WYSIWYG editors spit out ugly markup, but i never expected to see anything like this: <p align="center"> <a href="images/BOSLoading.jpg"> <img border="2" src="images/BOSLoading_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/BOSLoading.jpg" width="100" height="68"></a><br> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt"><i><b> <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial Narrow">BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader</font></b></i></span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: 700">.</span></p> It's enough to make one cry. All this extra markup just to un-italicise a ".":omg: Roswell:sigh: [edit] - never noticed that it rendered the HTML:doh: [edit*2] - FYI, it's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild - that is if the guy that owns it decides it's worth the money to do that for a company he's thinking of selling.

    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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      I always thought that WYSIWYG editors spit out ugly markup, but i never expected to see anything like this: <p align="center"> <a href="images/BOSLoading.jpg"> <img border="2" src="images/BOSLoading_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/BOSLoading.jpg" width="100" height="68"></a><br> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt"><i><b> <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial Narrow">BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader</font></b></i></span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: 700">.</span></p> It's enough to make one cry. All this extra markup just to un-italicise a ".":omg: Roswell:sigh: [edit] - never noticed that it rendered the HTML:doh: [edit*2] - FYI, it's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild - that is if the guy that owns it decides it's worth the money to do that for a company he's thinking of selling.

      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
      Antonio VillaRaigosa
      City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      RoswellNX wrote:

      xthumbnail-orig-image

      But I can not find this attribute in W3C HTML description also? :confused:

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        RoswellNX wrote:

        xthumbnail-orig-image

        But I can not find this attribute in W3C HTML description also? :confused:

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        Well, i didn't even bother checking if such thing existed, but it's the first time i'm seeing something like this as well. I'm assuming it's just some auto-generated IE-specific Microsoft crap. At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0:rolleyes: Roswell

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          Well, i didn't even bother checking if such thing existed, but it's the first time i'm seeing something like this as well. I'm assuming it's just some auto-generated IE-specific Microsoft crap. At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0:rolleyes: Roswell

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          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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          RoswellNX wrote:

          At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0

          I agree. The HTML generated by it (and its successor) is horrendous really. It makes the applications to just get locked down to IE Shop, making us shiver before our Project Manager on accounts of cross-browser compatibility. :)

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            RoswellNX wrote:

            At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0

            I agree. The HTML generated by it (and its successor) is horrendous really. It makes the applications to just get locked down to IE Shop, making us shiver before our Project Manager on accounts of cross-browser compatibility. :)

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            And this Frontpage behavior is what pushed me to writing my own markup (and later code as went into web dev) four years ago (otherwise i would have stuck to computer graphics and illustration). When i found out that on Macs even under IE, the "IE-specific" stuff rendered horribly. Apparently Ms stepped into their own pile of sh*t :-> Roswell P.S. I hope you've seen the updated 1st post, now that i've realized that i forgot to escape a few of the angle brackets

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              And this Frontpage behavior is what pushed me to writing my own markup (and later code as went into web dev) four years ago (otherwise i would have stuck to computer graphics and illustration). When i found out that on Macs even under IE, the "IE-specific" stuff rendered horribly. Apparently Ms stepped into their own pile of sh*t :-> Roswell P.S. I hope you've seen the updated 1st post, now that i've realized that i forgot to escape a few of the angle brackets

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              Paul Conrad
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              RoswellNX wrote:

              Apparently Ms stepped into their own pile of sh*t

              Ewwwwwwwwwwwww :laugh::laugh::laugh:

              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                I always thought that WYSIWYG editors spit out ugly markup, but i never expected to see anything like this: <p align="center"> <a href="images/BOSLoading.jpg"> <img border="2" src="images/BOSLoading_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/BOSLoading.jpg" width="100" height="68"></a><br> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt"><i><b> <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial Narrow">BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader</font></b></i></span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: 700">.</span></p> It's enough to make one cry. All this extra markup just to un-italicise a ".":omg: Roswell:sigh: [edit] - never noticed that it rendered the HTML:doh: [edit*2] - FYI, it's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild - that is if the guy that owns it decides it's worth the money to do that for a company he's thinking of selling.

                "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.

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                  There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.

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                  RoswellNX
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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.

                  True, and that's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild. I've actually drawn up (on paper) the design already in case the guy will agree to go forward with it. Roswell

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                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.

                    True, and that's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild. I've actually drawn up (on paper) the design already in case the guy will agree to go forward with it. Roswell

                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                    martin_hughes
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                    The real WTF here is... whoops, wrong site :) Having worked with HTML for years, it surprises me that there are still no really good wysiwyg editors. I hope soon that html will just be a bad memory and something far better, and editor friendly, replaces the hell spawned duo of html and css.

                    "It was the day before today.... I remember it like it was yesterday." -Moleman

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                      There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      hand-written HTML;

                      empowered by HTML-Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/[^]); the world's best combination. :)

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                        I always thought that WYSIWYG editors spit out ugly markup, but i never expected to see anything like this: <p align="center"> <a href="images/BOSLoading.jpg"> <img border="2" src="images/BOSLoading_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/BOSLoading.jpg" width="100" height="68"></a><br> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt"><i><b> <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial Narrow">BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader</font></b></i></span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: 700">.</span></p> It's enough to make one cry. All this extra markup just to un-italicise a ".":omg: Roswell:sigh: [edit] - never noticed that it rendered the HTML:doh: [edit*2] - FYI, it's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild - that is if the guy that owns it decides it's worth the money to do that for a company he's thinking of selling.

                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                        Antonio VillaRaigosa
                        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                        eggsovereasy
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                        Wow! BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader.

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