Heathrow Camp for Climate Action
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Yes, a good read from another angle. However I find I have a certain respect for these people who are attempting to raise awareness and hopefully make a change. Your past sounds like my children's present minus the beauty competitions ;) Although we do have a toilet self-sufficiency is still quite a way off.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
self-sufficiency is still quite a way off
I don't think we ever made it, other than for veg milk and eggs. It did involve eating a lot of turnips, potatoes and kale. I'm still pretty suspicious of turnips unless they are in a good cornish pasty :)
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http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/[^] “All the facilities that 1,500 people would need - including running water, sanitation, hot food twice a day, banks of computers and walkie-talkies, stage lighting, sound systems, even a cinema - were set up in a few hours on unfamiliar ground, in the teeth of police blockades. A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings, permitted a genuine participatory democracy of the kind that you will never encounter in British public life. The actions themselves were disciplined and remained non-violent, even when the police got heavy. I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.” (Monbiot, ‘Beneath Heathrow's pall of misery, a new political movement is born,’ The Guardian, August 21, 2007) It's nice to read some good news every once in awhile.
What really fucked me off was that one of the spokesman (girlie, actually) was American. Nothing wrong with that at all. And then you wonder how she got there. Did she swim? Cruise? Row? Did she bollocks: I'm betting she flew in. Hypocrite.
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Another sign insisted: ‘Wash your hands before meals.’ As one reporter pointed out: ‘For a gathering founded on anarchist principles, the Camp for Climate Action doesn’t half have a lot of rules.’ It looked like a combination of a pretty sick parody of the real-life shanty villages that exist in parts of the Third World (from which millions are eager to escape, by plane preferably) and New Labour’s petty and authoritarian politics of behaviour.
Yet it seems that doom is not so near that there is no time for eco-fun. Eco-fun is like normal fun except with the fun taken out. At the camp you can take lessons in Argentine tango (for those who want to dance into the night of climate catastrophe?) and how to build your own rocket stove; there are sessions on ‘Clowning for Children’, to help cheer up the rain-soaked toddlers, and on ‘Liberation: A Journey through Buddhism, Anarchism and Ecology’. The advertised ‘highlight of the day’ was a powerpoint presentation on ‘The Two Degree Timebomb’ by green writer Mark Lynas. If you get exhausted from all this larking around, then you can head for the ‘Treesponsibility Dome’ where there is a half-hour Silent Meeting every day.
As a child of the 1980's peace movement raised on a smallholding attempt at self sufficiency and who spent a fair bit of time at greenham common watching lesbian beauty competitions and crapping in ditches, this is all a little familiar :)
All in all: You have problems with other enjoying a life which reminds you of your youth, which you still feel embarrassed of. -- modified at 5:40 Friday 24th August, 2007 Typo
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
George Orwell, "Keep the Aspidistra Flying", Opening words -
All in all: You have problems with other enjoying a life which reminds you of your youth, which you still feel embarrassed of. -- modified at 5:40 Friday 24th August, 2007 Typo
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
George Orwell, "Keep the Aspidistra Flying", Opening wordsNope, I just remember its limitations, and the fact that very few can honestly keep it up for any length of time. I'm not embarrassed by it at all, its a fundamental part of my identity and was a pleasant way to grow up (countryside, lots of space and freedom). Why would I write about it on internet forums if I felt shame?
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What really fucked me off was that one of the spokesman (girlie, actually) was American. Nothing wrong with that at all. And then you wonder how she got there. Did she swim? Cruise? Row? Did she bollocks: I'm betting she flew in. Hypocrite.
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http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/[^] “All the facilities that 1,500 people would need - including running water, sanitation, hot food twice a day, banks of computers and walkie-talkies, stage lighting, sound systems, even a cinema - were set up in a few hours on unfamiliar ground, in the teeth of police blockades. A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings, permitted a genuine participatory democracy of the kind that you will never encounter in British public life. The actions themselves were disciplined and remained non-violent, even when the police got heavy. I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.” (Monbiot, ‘Beneath Heathrow's pall of misery, a new political movement is born,’ The Guardian, August 21, 2007) It's nice to read some good news every once in awhile.
I wonder how much of my taxes went in benefits to prop up that bunch of soap-dodgers for a week or two? "Professional protesters"? More like permanent benefit scroungers IMO.
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http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/[^] “All the facilities that 1,500 people would need - including running water, sanitation, hot food twice a day, banks of computers and walkie-talkies, stage lighting, sound systems, even a cinema - were set up in a few hours on unfamiliar ground, in the teeth of police blockades. A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings, permitted a genuine participatory democracy of the kind that you will never encounter in British public life. The actions themselves were disciplined and remained non-violent, even when the police got heavy. I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.” (Monbiot, ‘Beneath Heathrow's pall of misery, a new political movement is born,’ The Guardian, August 21, 2007) It's nice to read some good news every once in awhile.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
ll the facilities that 1,500 people would need
Yeah, and barely a third of that number turned up:laugh: Pile of tree hugging fucking hippies. I can't bare their self-satisfied, sanctimonious, bleeding heart bollocks. I used to go out with a hippie girl who's actually at this event but I just got sick of it. They are the most oppressive bunch of hypocrites in the world, if you question any of their beliefs in any way they just try and barrage you with accusations of fascism and other stereotypes supposed to demonize you into submission. They're permanantly coming up with rules that to impliment you'd have to wrench everyone away from they're natural behavior like the worst parts of the worst governmental policies in history. So much of it is a sick cocktail of social vengence and soft mindedness. They choose to deny reason and so I choose to not respect them but fight them at every turn. There's just too many unrealistic fools in the world for it to funny any more.:mad: Anyway, rant over, I'm sure some of them are very nice ;)
Cheers Tom Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
Religion: Morality taking credit for the work of luck.
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." - Marcus Aurelius -
I know it's hard to believe what with the complexity of the UK public transport and the long words on the TV and in newspapers, but she might well actually live in the UK, several do apparently.
Don't be a complete wanker: she still had to travel at least 3000 odd miles to get here at some point in her life.
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http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/[^] “All the facilities that 1,500 people would need - including running water, sanitation, hot food twice a day, banks of computers and walkie-talkies, stage lighting, sound systems, even a cinema - were set up in a few hours on unfamiliar ground, in the teeth of police blockades. A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings, permitted a genuine participatory democracy of the kind that you will never encounter in British public life. The actions themselves were disciplined and remained non-violent, even when the police got heavy. I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.” (Monbiot, ‘Beneath Heathrow's pall of misery, a new political movement is born,’ The Guardian, August 21, 2007) It's nice to read some good news every once in awhile.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings
Yes, its called the cell system. It only works on small populations.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.
What a naieve twat.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
The Guardian, August 21, 2007)
Typical. I'll bet he felt all warm and fury after a weekend love-in with these onanists.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings
Yes, its called the cell system. It only works on small populations.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.
What a naieve twat.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
The Guardian, August 21, 2007)
Typical. I'll bet he felt all warm and fury after a weekend love-in with these onanists.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
A system of affinity groups and neighbourhoods, feeding their decisions upwards to general meetings
Yes, its called the cell system. It only works on small populations.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I left the camp on Sunday evening convinced that a new political movement has been born.
What a naieve twat.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
The Guardian, August 21, 2007)
Typical. I'll bet he felt all warm and fury after a weekend love-in with these onanists.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
What a naieve twat.
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