Windows Vista for a Developer
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Hi, I want to buy a laptop, and all are comming with widows Vista. is it a good operating system for a developer? I heard that vista use a lot of ram. Please, give me some help to take a good decision. Pioner
There are multiple threads on vista development in the lounge if you search for them. You'll want a minimum of 2gigs of ram, and of the price for 4gigs has dropped below $insane it would probably be a good idea if you're doing any heavy duty work (even though win32 can only provide access to ~3gig of the total). For visual studio 2005 you'll need the vista compatibility service pack. IIRC if you really want XP you can still get it from Dell and most other manufacturer websites from their small business product line. Alternately the vista license allows downgrading business32 and ultimate32 editions down to XPpro32.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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There are multiple threads on vista development in the lounge if you search for them. You'll want a minimum of 2gigs of ram, and of the price for 4gigs has dropped below $insane it would probably be a good idea if you're doing any heavy duty work (even though win32 can only provide access to ~3gig of the total). For visual studio 2005 you'll need the vista compatibility service pack. IIRC if you really want XP you can still get it from Dell and most other manufacturer websites from their small business product line. Alternately the vista license allows downgrading business32 and ultimate32 editions down to XPpro32.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Thanks, Some people said me that, vista has some good thinks, but I feel a little more confortable with xp pro than vista. PIONER
You'll also need to get SQL Express SP1.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
You'll also need to get SQL Express SP1.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I used vista ultimate 32bit on ma laptop 1gig for sam time but i realised its got lots of stuff developers do nid, thereby slowind down running of its own features..will advis that u stick to xpsp2, if u using that and focus on your projects. i prefer xpsp2...it runs faster and am able to complete ma work on time.
phatkin
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Hi, I want to buy a laptop, and all are comming with widows Vista. is it a good operating system for a developer? I heard that vista use a lot of ram. Please, give me some help to take a good decision. Pioner
I use Vista ultimate on a desktop PC with 1GB of PC2-6400 High Speed RAM, with a 2.13GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor. Complilation is often very fast and I have found Visual Studio to work without the Vista compatibility pack; These specs are probably much higher than most laptop specs, so for a laptop I'd agree with about 2GB of RAM, and I would highly recommend the Intel Core 2 Duo processor line - they are very fast! Also.. remember to make sure that you get GOOD fast DDR2 RAM.. this is much faster than the old DDR RAM, so will participate in making apps run faster.. Do not underestimate memory! You can get an Aero-compatible laptop if you wish.. Aero is pretty cool but not particularly that useful and in my opinion would be a waste of battery on a laptop. Hope this helps! --PerspX
"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." - Bill Gates
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I use Vista ultimate on a desktop PC with 1GB of PC2-6400 High Speed RAM, with a 2.13GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor. Complilation is often very fast and I have found Visual Studio to work without the Vista compatibility pack; These specs are probably much higher than most laptop specs, so for a laptop I'd agree with about 2GB of RAM, and I would highly recommend the Intel Core 2 Duo processor line - they are very fast! Also.. remember to make sure that you get GOOD fast DDR2 RAM.. this is much faster than the old DDR RAM, so will participate in making apps run faster.. Do not underestimate memory! You can get an Aero-compatible laptop if you wish.. Aero is pretty cool but not particularly that useful and in my opinion would be a waste of battery on a laptop. Hope this helps! --PerspX
"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." - Bill Gates
Unless you're building a system from scratch with old parts you won't be using DDR1 anymore because the mobos won't support it. Also, except in the memory starved P4 line DDR2 provides very little benefit since the ram speed isn't the bottleneck. For an AMD system the gain is essentially zero, they only released the AM2 (A64-DDR2) chips when ram makers started to cut DDR1 production.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Unless you're building a system from scratch with old parts you won't be using DDR1 anymore because the mobos won't support it. Also, except in the memory starved P4 line DDR2 provides very little benefit since the ram speed isn't the bottleneck. For an AMD system the gain is essentially zero, they only released the AM2 (A64-DDR2) chips when ram makers started to cut DDR1 production.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
A fair point.. But my point basically was to get GOOD RAM rather than cheaper RAM, as it helps speed up the system and has good reliability --PerspX
"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." - Bill Gates
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You'll also need to get SQL Express SP1.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
SP2 surely?
Kevin
Whatever - it's getting to be so hard to keep track.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Whatever - it's getting to be so hard to keep track.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001:)
Kevin
