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    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    The normal (ordinary) citizen is being fed data

    Its not data they are fed, its opinion. The thing with AGW is that there isnt any data except for temperature records, the rest is speculation. The position of the sceptic is clear: There is not enough data to form policy.

    Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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    fat_boy wrote:

    The thing with AGW is that there isnt any data except for temperature records, the rest is speculation

    Lots of stuff to do with AGW is probabilistic, but this is WRONG! The key issue with AGW is that the rising CO2 levels are almost certainly trapping more heat. This can be seen from the difference between the long wave radiation at the surface of the earth to that measured by satellites at the top of the atmosphere. So if we are trapping more heat, which way do you think the temperature will go? There is lots of modeling to try to determine the effects of this, none of which is perfect, but no model has managed to predict some sort of stabilising effect, the consequences range from bad to disastrous.

    fat_boy wrote:

    The position of the sceptic is clear: There is not enough data to form policy

    I thought that your position was that there was so much data showing that it was in fact either not a problem or was in fact beneficial, that any proposal to limit CO2 emissions was driven by some other agenda. I see you as a poor sucker who has swallowed the FUD campaign run by those who fear the move to a low carbon economy.


    Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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      :laugh: I have heard that joke alot, seeing how I have pictures of Uranus on my site. I uploaded one onto flickr if you want to see it. I would link to my site, but I wouldn't want the soapbox riff-raff to find there way there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyleedwards/1449316392/

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      Will look at them. And long time back, I saw so many pictures taken by you in some other site. They were nice too. but I lost the link, you still maintain them? If so, post it here or just email me. FlickR is blocked for me here at work I can check only when I reach back home.


      Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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        Will look at them. And long time back, I saw so many pictures taken by you in some other site. They were nice too. but I lost the link, you still maintain them? If so, post it here or just email me. FlickR is blocked for me here at work I can check only when I reach back home.


        Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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        Thanks, and yes I still maintain my gallery. I emailed you a link to it.

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          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

          I have this niggling feeling that some of what he says could turn out to be more truthful than not,

          It is so. The wheels have started coming off the AGW bus already. In 5 years wwe will look back at this as one of mankinds greatest follies.

          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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          fat_boy wrote:

          It is so. The wheels have started coming off the AGW bus already. In 5 years wwe will look back at this as one of mankinds greatest follies

          Doh... and fat_boy will be a local town hero. :laugh: the day it happens, I guess I'll owe you an apology for giving you crap about your deluge of posts on the subject.

          This statement was never false.

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