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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
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Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007I like your screen size estimate. Puts things in perspective very nicely.
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007Good comemnt on the screen size. As I read the thread, I was thinking what monitor even has 25000 pixels across it's width. A 50 inch monitor would need a pixel width of 50 microns in order to accomadate that.
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Good comemnt on the screen size. As I read the thread, I was thinking what monitor even has 25000 pixels across it's width. A 50 inch monitor would need a pixel width of 50 microns in order to accomadate that.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Donate to help Conquer Cancer[^]
Yeah, even if the columns were a single pixel wide, the grid still extend over 21 feet. Now that's useful! :-D
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007So what we need now is one of: - much bigger monitors; - horizontal outlining; - line wrap (and maybe taller monitors). :-D
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007...and if the user looks at 1 cell per second, it would take almost 7 hours to view the data for 1 row..if he can get it to scroll that fast :) Sweet.
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007I was only able to get 24,348 columns, he'll never be able to make it 25,000. It's impossible. Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers? I can just imagine the person trying to read the data and remember a column value that was 10,000 columns behind where they currently scrolled. My next question, is this a web app? Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line. :omg:
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I was only able to get 24,348 columns, he'll never be able to make it 25,000. It's impossible. Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers? I can just imagine the person trying to read the data and remember a column value that was 10,000 columns behind where they currently scrolled. My next question, is this a web app? Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line. :omg:
It is just one of those things people come up with to justify their quest for a new and bigger machine ... :)
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]
this months tips: - use PRE tags to preserve formatting when showing multi-line code snippets - before you ask a question here, search CodeProject, then Google
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I was only able to get 24,348 columns, he'll never be able to make it 25,000. It's impossible. Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers? I can just imagine the person trying to read the data and remember a column value that was 10,000 columns behind where they currently scrolled. My next question, is this a web app? Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line. :omg:
Chris Kowalske wrote:
Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line
Sure, he'd just have to come back and check it next month to see if it has loaded :rolleyes:
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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Chris Kowalske wrote:
Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line
Sure, he'd just have to come back and check it next month to see if it has loaded :rolleyes:
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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Chris Kowalske wrote:
think about all the times you've seen a healthy 56k line (0 for me).
Must have been some years ago. I have not used dial-up for about 6 years now :-D
"Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007Holy crap.:wtf: That's got to be the most unusable UI design ever. Even worse than Microsoft Bob. No. This is the Elephant Man of designs. It's the design that the other UIs at school would gang up on and steal its lunch money.
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Holy crap.:wtf: That's got to be the most unusable UI design ever. Even worse than Microsoft Bob. No. This is the Elephant Man of designs. It's the design that the other UIs at school would gang up on and steal its lunch money.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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I was only able to get 24,348 columns, he'll never be able to make it 25,000. It's impossible. Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers? I can just imagine the person trying to read the data and remember a column value that was 10,000 columns behind where they currently scrolled. My next question, is this a web app? Can you imagine that amount of data over a healthy 56k line. :omg:
Chris Kowalske wrote:
Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers?
No need to have unique Headers: That would be like "Peak No. 523, Signal/Noise Ratio". Ist not nonsensical to display the Info at all. Its his attempt to press them in one flat table. Only Database-specialists would even think of something like that...
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
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Chris Kowalske wrote:
Seriously though, could you imagine trying to come up with 25,000 column headers?
No need to have unique Headers: That would be like "Peak No. 523, Signal/Noise Ratio". Ist not nonsensical to display the Info at all. Its his attempt to press them in one flat table. Only Database-specialists would even think of something like that...
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
George Orwell, "Keep the Aspidistra Flying", Opening wordsjhwurmbach wrote:
Only Database-specialists would even think of something like that...
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007You know, I generally dislike stupid questions such as this one and 75% time coming in unmistakable Indian spelling, however after I read "No sir, i mean 25000 columns . it is req. of our software" line my heart went out for him. I truly feel sorry for any guy who has to deal with clients who can think up such idiocracy.
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You know, I generally dislike stupid questions such as this one and 75% time coming in unmistakable Indian spelling, however after I read "No sir, i mean 25000 columns . it is req. of our software" line my heart went out for him. I truly feel sorry for any guy who has to deal with clients who can think up such idiocracy.
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
I truly feel sorry for any guy who has to deal with clients who can think up such idiocracy.
The level of which is astounding, isn't it?? According to management, the customer is ALWAYS right! Yeah? BS! :mad:
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Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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JazzJackRabbit wrote:
I truly feel sorry for any guy who has to deal with clients who can think up such idiocracy.
The level of which is astounding, isn't it?? According to management, the customer is ALWAYS right! Yeah? BS! :mad:
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
The level of which is astounding, isn't it?? According to management, the customer is ALWAYS right! Yeah? BS!
This is the point at which you say "Ok, sure, I can do that. That'll cost (25 x $NOMINAL_AMOUNT). However, here's a better design, which will cost ($NOMINAL_AMOUNT). Which would you prefer?"
"If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual." - Frank Herbert
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Now this[^] is something you don't see in an application very often. I wonder why?
A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007 -
You know, I generally dislike stupid questions such as this one and 75% time coming in unmistakable Indian spelling, however after I read "No sir, i mean 25000 columns . it is req. of our software" line my heart went out for him. I truly feel sorry for any guy who has to deal with clients who can think up such idiocracy.
My current employer hired a contractor who, himself, contracted out some software to India. It was textbook quality work - in other words, lacking insight. It was, after some debates (read: swallow pride) relegated to the scrap-heap - unused. This would seem to be an even more extreme (and certainly more amusing) example of meeting design specs as would a thoughtless drone. That, assuming these were the given design specs. It could well be (I'd bet on it) that our UI Mage determined this to be the design required due to his calculations - not explicit customer specs. Then, again, what would one expect from a software mill scenario? Management (as a species) often seem to have a special skill at managing to muck things up. Usually on life's grander scales. First there was a make-or-buy -> make was cheaper they said. (until they learned that maintainence, custom modifications, upgrades, etc. cost money, too.). Next, they decided if we have to 'make' our software, let's get it done cheap in some distant land. Turns out that it's not so cheap, after all: once you factor in the extra time in getting the specs understood, and fix after fix on items that should have (would have!) been common sense if it were done home-grown. Can't wait to see what's next! I've heard that some are contracting out the management, too.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein