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  • R Red Stateler

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    More than 90,000 Americans get potentially deadly infections each year from
    a drug-resistant staph "superbug," the government reported Tuesday in its first
    overall estimate of invasive disease caused by the germ.
    ...
    There were 988 reported deaths among infected people in the study, for a rate of
    6.3 per 100,000. That would translate to 18,650 deaths annually, although the
    researchers don't know if MRSA was the cause in all cases.

    If these deaths all were related to staph infections, the total would exceed
    other better-known causes of death including AIDS — which killed an estimated
    17,011 Americans in 2005 — said Dr. Elizabeth Bancroft of the Los Angeles County
    Health Department, the editorial author.

    In 1987[^], half a million people marched on Washington demanding more government funding for AIDS (an entirely preventable disease). Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.


    Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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    VonHagNDaz
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    Red Stateler wrote:

    an entirely preventable disease

    maybe about 95% preventable. people are still catching HIV from blood transfusions and babies can be born with the disease from a diseased mother, who may not even know she has it...

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      Red Stateler wrote:

      an entirely preventable disease

      maybe about 95% preventable. people are still catching HIV from blood transfusions and babies can be born with the disease from a diseased mother, who may not even know she has it...

      [Insert Witty Sig Here]

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      Red Stateler
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      VonHagNDaz wrote:

      maybe about 95% preventable. people are still catching HIV from blood transfusions and babies can be born with the disease from a diseased mother, who may not even know she has it...

      The risk from blood transfusions is pretty much non-existent since screening was introduced in the 1980's and (according to Wikipedia) is astoundingly low for childbirth (25% chance reduced to 1% chance if screened). But even in the latter case, the mother's case was entirely preventable. I find it amazing that a baby would be shielded from AIDS from its mother.


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      • R Red Stateler

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        More than 90,000 Americans get potentially deadly infections each year from
        a drug-resistant staph "superbug," the government reported Tuesday in its first
        overall estimate of invasive disease caused by the germ.
        ...
        There were 988 reported deaths among infected people in the study, for a rate of
        6.3 per 100,000. That would translate to 18,650 deaths annually, although the
        researchers don't know if MRSA was the cause in all cases.

        If these deaths all were related to staph infections, the total would exceed
        other better-known causes of death including AIDS — which killed an estimated
        17,011 Americans in 2005 — said Dr. Elizabeth Bancroft of the Los Angeles County
        Health Department, the editorial author.

        In 1987[^], half a million people marched on Washington demanding more government funding for AIDS (an entirely preventable disease). Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.


        Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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        Matthew Faithfull
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        I don't know about marches on Washington but marches on London are now routinely ignored, under-reported and over policed. Unless you get 100,000 people, refuse to follow police instructions and somebody gets hurt it won't even make the newspapers let alone TV. Direct action is going to have to move with the times and get seriously innovative to avoid becoming a historical oddity that no one takes seriously any more.

        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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          I don't know about marches on Washington but marches on London are now routinely ignored, under-reported and over policed. Unless you get 100,000 people, refuse to follow police instructions and somebody gets hurt it won't even make the newspapers let alone TV. Direct action is going to have to move with the times and get seriously innovative to avoid becoming a historical oddity that no one takes seriously any more.

          Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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          Red Stateler
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          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

          Direct action is going to have to move with the times and get seriously innovative to avoid becoming a historical oddity that no one takes seriously any more.

          Have you considered guerrilla aluminum-foil hat techniques? Our Omaha chapter has been experimenting with this. Basically, we tackle unsuspecting people on the street, throw them in a van, tie them up and place aluminum foil hats on their heads until the beams are reduced and they can think "clearly". For some reason it hasn't quite worked yet and we don't know why. I can only imagine that "they" have developed some sort of thought-caching mechanism that eliminates the need for constant direct beam connections.


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          • R Red Stateler

            Matthew Faithfull wrote:

            Direct action is going to have to move with the times and get seriously innovative to avoid becoming a historical oddity that no one takes seriously any more.

            Have you considered guerrilla aluminum-foil hat techniques? Our Omaha chapter has been experimenting with this. Basically, we tackle unsuspecting people on the street, throw them in a van, tie them up and place aluminum foil hats on their heads until the beams are reduced and they can think "clearly". For some reason it hasn't quite worked yet and we don't know why. I can only imagine that "they" have developed some sort of thought-caching mechanism that eliminates the need for constant direct beam connections.


            Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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            Matthew Faithfull
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            Get help before you become an unemployable social outcast.

            Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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            • M Matthew Faithfull

              Get help before you become an unemployable social outcast.

              Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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              Red Stateler
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              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

              Get help before you become an unemployable social outcast.

              What's that like?


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              • R Red Stateler

                link[^]

                More than 90,000 Americans get potentially deadly infections each year from
                a drug-resistant staph "superbug," the government reported Tuesday in its first
                overall estimate of invasive disease caused by the germ.
                ...
                There were 988 reported deaths among infected people in the study, for a rate of
                6.3 per 100,000. That would translate to 18,650 deaths annually, although the
                researchers don't know if MRSA was the cause in all cases.

                If these deaths all were related to staph infections, the total would exceed
                other better-known causes of death including AIDS — which killed an estimated
                17,011 Americans in 2005 — said Dr. Elizabeth Bancroft of the Los Angeles County
                Health Department, the editorial author.

                In 1987[^], half a million people marched on Washington demanding more government funding for AIDS (an entirely preventable disease). Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.


                Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                led mike
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                Red Stateler wrote:

                Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.

                Well why don't you organize one? Oh wait... sorry I forgot, you don't actually do anything. Man you really hate poor people don't you. :rolleyes:  This is all you can figure out to do with your time? What a loser.

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                • R Red Stateler

                  link[^]

                  More than 90,000 Americans get potentially deadly infections each year from
                  a drug-resistant staph "superbug," the government reported Tuesday in its first
                  overall estimate of invasive disease caused by the germ.
                  ...
                  There were 988 reported deaths among infected people in the study, for a rate of
                  6.3 per 100,000. That would translate to 18,650 deaths annually, although the
                  researchers don't know if MRSA was the cause in all cases.

                  If these deaths all were related to staph infections, the total would exceed
                  other better-known causes of death including AIDS — which killed an estimated
                  17,011 Americans in 2005 — said Dr. Elizabeth Bancroft of the Los Angeles County
                  Health Department, the editorial author.

                  In 1987[^], half a million people marched on Washington demanding more government funding for AIDS (an entirely preventable disease). Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.


                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                  Fred_Smith
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                  Why protest? Just kill a few million cats and dogs and mice and guinea-pigs and maybe you'll find a drug that alleviates the symptons... then you just start all over again to find something to alleviate those symptons... that's the way it's done - what's your problem?

                  "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." 73Zeppelin

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                  • R Red Stateler

                    link[^]

                    More than 90,000 Americans get potentially deadly infections each year from
                    a drug-resistant staph "superbug," the government reported Tuesday in its first
                    overall estimate of invasive disease caused by the germ.
                    ...
                    There were 988 reported deaths among infected people in the study, for a rate of
                    6.3 per 100,000. That would translate to 18,650 deaths annually, although the
                    researchers don't know if MRSA was the cause in all cases.

                    If these deaths all were related to staph infections, the total would exceed
                    other better-known causes of death including AIDS — which killed an estimated
                    17,011 Americans in 2005 — said Dr. Elizabeth Bancroft of the Los Angeles County
                    Health Department, the editorial author.

                    In 1987[^], half a million people marched on Washington demanding more government funding for AIDS (an entirely preventable disease). Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.


                    Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                    Al Beback
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                    Red Stateler wrote:

                    an entirely preventable disease

                    Here's a hypothetical for you: Your wife has a one-night fling with another man. You never find out, and a year later she becomes pregnant (from you). After a checkup at the doctor, you both receive the horrible news: she has AIDS! She comes clean with you about the affair, but of course, it's too late for you. You now have AIDS, and so does your future child. Explain how this is entirely preventable.


                    Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. - Mark Twain

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                    • A Al Beback

                      Red Stateler wrote:

                      an entirely preventable disease

                      Here's a hypothetical for you: Your wife has a one-night fling with another man. You never find out, and a year later she becomes pregnant (from you). After a checkup at the doctor, you both receive the horrible news: she has AIDS! She comes clean with you about the affair, but of course, it's too late for you. You now have AIDS, and so does your future child. Explain how this is entirely preventable.


                      Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. - Mark Twain

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                      Red Stateler
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                      Al Beback wrote:

                      Explain how this is entirely preventable.

                      By her not having an affair.


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                        Al Beback wrote:

                        Explain how this is entirely preventable.

                        By her not having an affair.


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                        Al Beback
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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        By her not having an affair.

                        OK, but she did. Affairs happen. People normally split up over them and go on living their lives. In this case however, your is in peril, and there's practically nothing you could have done to stop it. Welcome to life with AIDS. Now what?


                        Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. - Mark Twain

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                        • F Fred_Smith

                          Why protest? Just kill a few million cats and dogs and mice and guinea-pigs and maybe you'll find a drug that alleviates the symptons... then you just start all over again to find something to alleviate those symptons... that's the way it's done - what's your problem?

                          "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." 73Zeppelin

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                          Rob Graham
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                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                          Just kill a few million cats and dogs and mice and guinea-pigs

                          Hey Fred, nobody gives a rat's ass.

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                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            By her not having an affair.

                            OK, but she did. Affairs happen. People normally split up over them and go on living their lives. In this case however, your is in peril, and there's practically nothing you could have done to stop it. Welcome to life with AIDS. Now what?


                            Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. - Mark Twain

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                            Red Stateler
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                            Al Beback wrote:

                            OK, but she did. Affairs happen. People normally split up over them and go on living their lives. In this case however, your is in peril, and there's practically nothing you could have done to stop it. Welcome to life with AIDS. Now what?

                            Then I die. Her actions in your hypothetical affect more than just herself, but the results are nonetheless entirely preventable by avoiding actions with a knowable end result. To say that, in your hypothetical, AIDS was not entirely preventable is like saying that a drunk driving fatality may not be entirely preventable. Sure it might affect somebody other than the person who undertook the risky action in question, but it is still something that does not occur randomly and spontaneously (like cancer). It is also worthy to note that your hypothetical is very hypothetical indeed as AIDS spread in the developed world almost entirely because of homosexual promiscuity and intraveinous drug use. That is why, per my point, there was a march on Washington. AIDS represents a "lifestyle", whereas staph infections do not. Marches in support of AIDS research are really just thinly veiled marches in support of that "lifestyle". If it weren't, then there would be marches on Washington demanding action on staph infections.


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                              Why protest? Just kill a few million cats and dogs and mice and guinea-pigs and maybe you'll find a drug that alleviates the symptons... then you just start all over again to find something to alleviate those symptons... that's the way it's done - what's your problem?

                              "I watched my daughter die which is infinitely more painful than watching your father die." 73Zeppelin

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                              And rabbits. I hate rabbits.


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                                Fred_Smith wrote:

                                Just kill a few million cats and dogs and mice and guinea-pigs

                                Hey Fred, nobody gives a rat's ass.

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                                I am well aware of that.

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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  Perhaps if staph spreads a bit further among "poor urban neighborhoods", then there will be a march on Washington for that too.

                                  Well why don't you organize one? Oh wait... sorry I forgot, you don't actually do anything. Man you really hate poor people don't you. :rolleyes:  This is all you can figure out to do with your time? What a loser.

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                                  led mike wrote:

                                  sorry I forgot, you don't actually do anything.

                                  Well...Kyle's mom.


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                                  • R Red Stateler

                                    led mike wrote:

                                    sorry I forgot, you don't actually do anything.

                                    Well...Kyle's mom.


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                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    Well...Kyle's mom.

                                    Back on that again are we? I saw the "epic" episode of back-and-forth in my beautiful Chavez thread between you and him... :rolleyes: Talk about thread hijack...

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                                      Red Stateler wrote:

                                      Well...Kyle's mom.

                                      Back on that again are we? I saw the "epic" episode of back-and-forth in my beautiful Chavez thread between you and him... :rolleyes: Talk about thread hijack...

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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      Back on that again are we?

                                      Literally...If you know what I mean!


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                                      • R Red Stateler

                                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                                        Back on that again are we?

                                        Literally...If you know what I mean!


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                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        Literally...If you know what I mean!

                                        :doh:

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                                          And rabbits. I hate rabbits.


                                          Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                                          Red Stateler wrote:

                                          And rabbits. I hate rabbits.

                                          Really - have you ever tried a nice red wine marinade - they are really good then!

                                          I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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