Politics
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
Sad Developer wrote: I hate politics in workplace Yeah it sucks, but if you wanna play the mans game these days you must play the game. Sad Developer wrote: Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? I think so as it's just me. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
Well, it's sorta universal I think. The higher up people are usually technically weaker and as a cover to that, they gotta pass the blame down. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win]
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
Politics have crept into our work space a little recently, but its been a battle between marketing and programming depts. One trying to curb the influence of the other. Fortunately, all all seems to be settling down now (with the programmers on top of course!). Having been with the company the longest, people do tend to listen to me. If I have something to say that is! So I have a little clout, but only ever use it if I feel its absolutely required. Otherwise, I just let everyone get on with their jobs, which is what working is all about! Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I had a quote, it would be a very good one.
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
Sad Developer wrote: A skillful developer never plays politics. I must say, respectfully, that I disagree strongly with this and am doing everything I can to educate programmers in this regard. Yes, politics suck, and we'd all rather be coding. However, whenever there are three or more people in the same room, you have politics. The people who get the cool projects, the newest hardware, the final say in design meetings, etc. are the ones who are able to effectively deal with internal politics. Everyone else is little more than a stationary target. Do I like it? Absolutely not. However, that doesn't change reality. Experience has taught me that the skillful developer is one who acquires whatever talents he needs to get the job done, and is not afraid to use them when necessary. If you choose not to play, either because you lack the interpersonal skills or you just feel like you shouldn't have to, you're target practice for those who do play, and play well. Don't let yourself become a Workplace Darwin Award winner. Learn corporate self defense and don't be afraid to use it when you must. It's just another skill set. If you were smart enough to become a programmer, you're certainly smart enough to master this. The world can be a dark and scary place. I shoot back. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Sad Developer wrote: A skillful developer never plays politics. I must say, respectfully, that I disagree strongly with this and am doing everything I can to educate programmers in this regard. Yes, politics suck, and we'd all rather be coding. However, whenever there are three or more people in the same room, you have politics. The people who get the cool projects, the newest hardware, the final say in design meetings, etc. are the ones who are able to effectively deal with internal politics. Everyone else is little more than a stationary target. Do I like it? Absolutely not. However, that doesn't change reality. Experience has taught me that the skillful developer is one who acquires whatever talents he needs to get the job done, and is not afraid to use them when necessary. If you choose not to play, either because you lack the interpersonal skills or you just feel like you shouldn't have to, you're target practice for those who do play, and play well. Don't let yourself become a Workplace Darwin Award winner. Learn corporate self defense and don't be afraid to use it when you must. It's just another skill set. If you were smart enough to become a programmer, you're certainly smart enough to master this. The world can be a dark and scary place. I shoot back. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: The world can be a dark and scary place. I shoot back. Amen! Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
Sad Developer wrote: A skillful developer never plays politics. I must say, respectfully, that I disagree strongly with this and am doing everything I can to educate programmers in this regard. Yes, politics suck, and we'd all rather be coding. However, whenever there are three or more people in the same room, you have politics. The people who get the cool projects, the newest hardware, the final say in design meetings, etc. are the ones who are able to effectively deal with internal politics. Everyone else is little more than a stationary target. Do I like it? Absolutely not. However, that doesn't change reality. Experience has taught me that the skillful developer is one who acquires whatever talents he needs to get the job done, and is not afraid to use them when necessary. If you choose not to play, either because you lack the interpersonal skills or you just feel like you shouldn't have to, you're target practice for those who do play, and play well. Don't let yourself become a Workplace Darwin Award winner. Learn corporate self defense and don't be afraid to use it when you must. It's just another skill set. If you were smart enough to become a programmer, you're certainly smart enough to master this. The world can be a dark and scary place. I shoot back. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Well said! And it's as true in any profession as it is in development. Office politics is merely a term for the interactions of different people with different goals, competing for limited resources. The ones who master it get the resources to accomplish their goals, whether they be to excel in project performance, or merely to accelerate their climb up the corporate food chain. It's just another skill we need to thrive in the real world. Watch, listen, learn the rules of the game, then play it with gusto! I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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I hate politics in workplace:mad: :mad: Sadly my workplace which was free from politics has been overtaken by manager who loves to play political games.:(( I hate managers esp. technical managers doing that. More often it is just because they lack technical skills. A skillful developer never plays politics. Do you guys have a poilitics free environment? If no how do you manage to continue to work in your environment?
I once worked for a complete Dilbert type boss who constantly did more harm to the company than good. He had no idea what was really going on with the work we were doing, but every once in a while he would walk in a fire out a few "random acts of management" that had nothing to do with anything we were currently working on just so that he could be sure we knew he was the one in charge. The fact that he made more money than any of us was even more aggrivating. Eventually the company started to struggle and I was laid off. Hmmm. I wasn't too upset to be leaving that time. The boss I work for now knows more about the company than any of us. It's heaven compared to this other guy I worked for. Why not throw away a dime? I throw away ten pennies all the time.