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    Jitse
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    Good day I've noticed a topic on this forum can in no way change its position after it's been posted. Most forums automatically make your topic jump back to the top of the board when someone replied. Why isn't this the case with this forum? It's sometimes annoying to have your topic at the sixth page, with someone that answered, and you answer back, but your topic keeps grounded to page six, between all those posted-one-day-ago topics :laugh:, doesn't really make sense. I don't think people will still digg up your topic when it's that far already, maybe only people that already replied to your topic because they subscribed to it as well. Thanks in advance

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      Good day I've noticed a topic on this forum can in no way change its position after it's been posted. Most forums automatically make your topic jump back to the top of the board when someone replied. Why isn't this the case with this forum? It's sometimes annoying to have your topic at the sixth page, with someone that answered, and you answer back, but your topic keeps grounded to page six, between all those posted-one-day-ago topics :laugh:, doesn't really make sense. I don't think people will still digg up your topic when it's that far already, maybe only people that already replied to your topic because they subscribed to it as well. Thanks in advance

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      The problem here is that abuse can happen and threads can be perpetually bumped. Check the "Message View" dropdown and choose "Thread View" - that may help

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        The problem here is that abuse can happen and threads can be perpetually bumped. Check the "Message View" dropdown and choose "Thread View" - that may help

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Apparently most other forums found a way to avoid that. And it's not that hard. A posting timer, so you can't post every two minutes or so. And for example you can not post twice in the same topic without anyone else replying, or you can only double post after 24 hours of no replies or so. There are dozens of ways to avoid abuse. And you always have moderators to control everything. Another reason why you get on a high page quickly, is because expanded view is default, many people won't change it to Thread View either because they don't care, or because they don't know the feature exists.

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          Apparently most other forums found a way to avoid that. And it's not that hard. A posting timer, so you can't post every two minutes or so. And for example you can not post twice in the same topic without anyone else replying, or you can only double post after 24 hours of no replies or so. There are dozens of ways to avoid abuse. And you always have moderators to control everything. Another reason why you get on a high page quickly, is because expanded view is default, many people won't change it to Thread View either because they don't care, or because they don't know the feature exists.

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          Jitse wrote:

          so you can't post every two minutes or so

          But this is what keeps forum discussions active. Not allowing quick reparte kills the atmosphere.

          Jitse wrote:

          And you always have moderators to control everything

          No we don't

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Jitse wrote:

            so you can't post every two minutes or so

            But this is what keeps forum discussions active. Not allowing quick reparte kills the atmosphere.

            Jitse wrote:

            And you always have moderators to control everything

            No we don't

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Then there's a very simple solution. Don't allow members to double post. This shouldn't be a problem because you can edit your post any moment you like, and it's even marked with a [modified] tag (which was a very good idea, not many forums have that). You could optionally allow them to post if there hasn't been a reply for 24 or 48 hours, but only once. :) That way you won't need any moderators, and the system is foolproof.

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              Then there's a very simple solution. Don't allow members to double post. This shouldn't be a problem because you can edit your post any moment you like, and it's even marked with a [modified] tag (which was a very good idea, not many forums have that). You could optionally allow them to post if there hasn't been a reply for 24 or 48 hours, but only once. :) That way you won't need any moderators, and the system is foolproof.

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              Bumping has been a problem on all the other forums I have been on, even with all the safe guards that you have mentioned, and even more. The only to prevent it from happening sometimes is to not let it happen at all.

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                Bumping has been a problem on all the other forums I have been on, even with all the safe guards that you have mentioned, and even more. The only to prevent it from happening sometimes is to not let it happen at all.

                The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec² - Marcus Dolengo

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                I don't think the disadvantages of bumping are greater than the advantages of answers longer than one post actually getting answered, instead of digged into the eternal void of oblivion. Bumping also isn't that horrible. It's mainly done by people that didn't get their question answered, but ended up quite far in the page ranking, sometimes just because of bad timing.

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                  Then there's a very simple solution. Don't allow members to double post. This shouldn't be a problem because you can edit your post any moment you like, and it's even marked with a [modified] tag (which was a very good idea, not many forums have that). You could optionally allow them to post if there hasn't been a reply for 24 or 48 hours, but only once. :) That way you won't need any moderators, and the system is foolproof.

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                  Jitse wrote:

                  That way you won't need any moderators, and the system is foolproof.

                  That's a bold claim. You get used to the way the system works, and I must admit that I happen to like it.

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                    Jitse wrote:

                    That way you won't need any moderators, and the system is foolproof.

                    That's a bold claim. You get used to the way the system works, and I must admit that I happen to like it.

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    And what to do when you made a new topic at an unfortunate moment, and it gets digged to the 20th page in no time? Just make a new one?

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                      And what to do when you made a new topic at an unfortunate moment, and it gets digged to the 20th page in no time? Just make a new one?

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                      If it gets bumped then so be it. Although I'd be really surprised if something got moved that quickly.

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                        If it gets bumped then so be it. Although I'd be really surprised if something got moved that quickly.

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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        Although I'd be really surprised if something got moved that quickly.

                        Here you go, got chased into oblivion in no time, although it doesn't look too hard to solve. =/ I explained it thoroughly, gave my code, and it's a pretty specific question. Is it possible this topic has been assaulted by a... page-tsunami? (DUN DUN DUN...) http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=1649&msg=2440450[^] I can see alot of other no-replies-topics at pages higher than 25 or so. Those are all victims of the Codeproject-Forums-don't-want-you-to-bump-dictatorship. ;)

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