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  • J Jeff Dickey

    Java, as originally conceived (J2SE, that is) is a perfectly decent language for several different problem domains, including particularly those similar to that for which it was created. The idiocy comes from two things. First, the "Java should do everything including the kitchen sink" mentality that gave us J2ME and (good working definition of "coding horror") J2EE. Secondly, the dishonest marketing commonly associated with the infinite battalions of H1B coders who have perfectly good-sounding (though mass-mimeographed) "qualifications" but couldn't solve a problem in Java (or apparently anything else) if you gave them a flashlight, a map, all the textbooks they could carry and a two-year head start. But they're the fashion, so thousands of lemmings cleverly disguised as "software-using companies" are throwing themselves of the cliff. (It's a little late to realize that you need an exit strategy when you've already been accelerating at 10 m/sec/sec for two or three minutes....)

    Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone/SMS: +65 8333 4403 Yahoo! IM: jeff_dickey MSN IM:    jeff_dickey at hotmail.com ICQ IM:    8053918 Skype:     jeff_dickey

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    Jeff Dickey wrote:

    Java, as originally conceived (J2SE, that is) is a perfectly decent language for several different problem domains, including particularly those similar to that for which it was created.

    Out of curiosity what domains it is better suited for? Personally i've only ever see the advantage of Java being for mobile and cross platform applications, something I see in the second case as being of limited value.

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      Jeff Dickey wrote:

      Java, as originally conceived (J2SE, that is) is a perfectly decent language for several different problem domains, including particularly those similar to that for which it was created.

      Out of curiosity what domains it is better suited for? Personally i've only ever see the advantage of Java being for mobile and cross platform applications, something I see in the second case as being of limited value.

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      I'd say small, embedded systems like set-top boxes or microwave ovens or TiVos or suchlike....close enough to the original problem domain addressed by what eventually became J2SE 1.0, without all the EE or additional-API BS-cleaverly-disguised-as-APIs. When Java was hijacked from scratching-an-itch to become the cornerstone of the One "True" Programming Religion, with hundreds of thousands of low-cost, mass-produced "proessionals", the nice, more-or-less-forward progress of software discovery and evolution took a nasty, twisted turn. For many shops controlled by Javacolytes, that 'twisted turn' has straightened out nicely. They're under a constant acceleration of ten meters per second per second...

      Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone/SMS: +65 8333 4403 Yahoo! IM: jeff_dickey MSN IM:    jeff_dickey at hotmail.com ICQ IM:    8053918 Skype:     jeff_dickey

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