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  • I Ilion

    Why? Why do you people get so bent out of shape when other people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse?

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    Chris Austin
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    Why do you come here if you hold us all is such ill regards? Are you trying to save sinner's souls by berating them with rhetoric? I don't get it.

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      digital man wrote:

      you are by far and away the most completely ignorant, bigoted and just plain thick. You clearly have not a single idea of your own, do not understand anything outside of your own selfish world view, have never read anything other than that which supports your twisted ideals and generally have not got a clue.

      Do you think he beats Red Stateler on this? :rolleyes:

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      Lost User
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      Even Espeir didn't have a good opinion of Ilion. At least you could converse with Espeir to some degree of comprehension.

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      • I Ilion

        And I have no objection to that. It is, after all, the very thing I am doing, though I am digging even deeper.

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        Stan Shannon
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        Ilíon wrote:

        though I am digging even deeper.

        That explains the pick ax... :~

        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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        • T thrakazog

          I want my baby back baby back I want my baby back baby back RIBS!! Extra spicy.

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          Edmundisme
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          The internet is where people can make completely base and tasteless comments with impunity. How is it exactly that burning a baby in a microwave oven is joke fodder? Was it worth it? Did you get a good laugh in? Shame on you.

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            Bastard.[^]

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            led mike
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            Mauldin's lawyer, Sam Cammack, said his client would not get the treatment he needs for mental illness in prison. I think there is a good chance he would be stabbed multiple times and stuffed into a small space until he dies. That seems to qualify as "the treatment he needs" to me.

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            • E Edmundisme

              The internet is where people can make completely base and tasteless comments with impunity. How is it exactly that burning a baby in a microwave oven is joke fodder? Was it worth it? Did you get a good laugh in? Shame on you.

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              thrakazog
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              Edmundisme wrote:

              How is it exactly that burning a baby in a microwave oven is joke fodder?

              Baby jokes are funny. Especially dead baby jokes.

              Edmundisme wrote:

              Was it worth it?

              Totally.

              Edmundisme wrote:

              Did you get a good laugh in?

              Yes I did. I'm getting another good laugh right now.

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              • T thrakazog

                I want my baby back baby back I want my baby back baby back RIBS!! Extra spicy.

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                chester
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                What kind of sauce do you usually pair with that? I like a nice honey glaze and I find that if you dip the little tyke in a bucket before microwaving it seals in the juices. oh, and that remdinds me, this techinque works for baby seals too.

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                  I'm sorry for misunderstanding... let me restate the question... Why are there no such things as innocence and guilt if atheism were indeed the truth about the nature of reality?

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                  Ilion
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                  Ro0ke wrote:

                  I'm sorry for misunderstanding...

                  No problem at all, no need to be sorry, no need to apologize. There is nothing at all culpably wrong with not understanding something. There is nothing wrong with asking for clarification. Rather, it is the *refusal* to understand which is culpably wrong, it is the refusal to acknowledge and understand clarification which is culpably wrong. And when a refusal to understand is coupled with the sorts of behavior these 'atheists' (the quotes are because they only play at being atheists, for they refuse to understand what atheism entails) constantly exhibit, then such persons make themselves in all ways despicable.

                  Ro0ke wrote:

                  Why are there no such things as innocence and guilt if atheism were indeed the truth about the nature of reality?

                  In a nutshell: Concepts can be explained only by reference to mind(s). These things (innocence/guilt, responsibility/non-responsibility, sanity/insanity, rationality/irrationality, etc) are all concepts; as such, they exist only "within" a mind or minds. But atheism -- the denial that there is a God -- cannot logically make use of invocation of minds to explain anything, for the very nature of atheism is to deny that reality is fundamentally mental. I've made reference above to Richard Dawkins' article explicating his "dangerous idea," 'Let's all stop beating Basil's car,' the thesis of which is that concepts such as responsibility and blame (i.e. holding another responsibile for his actions) are faulty and false concepts, that these (and many other like) concepts do not accurately reflect the true nature of reality. Now, *IF* atheism were indeed the truth about the nature of reality, THEN Dawkins' claims would be correct. The fact that he doesn't himself believe (as he admits and acknowledges in the conclusion of the piece) the view he's trying to advance certainly tells us something interesting about Professor Dawkins, but it doesn't change the fact that the view he is trying to advance follows logically and inescapably from atheism, from the denial that there is a God. Even though the thesis and claims Dawkins advances are false, and even though Dawkins is a liar (for he knows and even admits that he doesn't actually believe the assertions he's advancing), I highly recommend reading his entire article. Two Basic Worldview

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                  • E Edmundisme

                    The internet is where people can make completely base and tasteless comments with impunity. How is it exactly that burning a baby in a microwave oven is joke fodder? Was it worth it? Did you get a good laugh in? Shame on you.

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                    Ilion
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                    Edmundisme wrote:

                    Shame on you.

                    Why? On what grounds? Merely on your assertion? 'Cause, I gotta tell ya' that's all you got: you deny objective moral obligations.

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                    • I Ilion

                      digital man wrote:

                      Apparently he was a born again christian...

                      Anyone can *claim* anything. You know, sort of like you are tendentiously doing here. His actions are consistent with atheism; his actions are consistent with what you fools assert is the truth about the nature of reality. *YOUR* (plural) actions in this thread are not consistent with what you (plural) assert is the truth about the nature of reality. You fools are acting as though this man is morally responsible for what he did. You fools are acting as though there is such a thing as objective morality (which you verbally deny), and that he has violated it. You fools are acting as though there is such a thing as justice (which cannot really exist were atheism true), and that justice demand that this fellow be punished, and worse than punished, for his violation of morality.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Go sit in a microwave.

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                      • S soap brain

                        You know what else is beyond parody? Give up? Ya mum!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                        Ya mum!!!

                        :)

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                        • C Chris Austin

                          Why do you come here if you hold us all is such ill regards? Are you trying to save sinner's souls by berating them with rhetoric? I don't get it.

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                          73Zeppelin
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                          He's retarded, that's why. I wouldn't be surprised if his slave of a father beat his ass as a child - and if he didn't, he should have. Hard. Very hard. Preferably to death.


                          Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.

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                          • I Ilion

                            Ro0ke wrote:

                            I'm sorry for misunderstanding...

                            No problem at all, no need to be sorry, no need to apologize. There is nothing at all culpably wrong with not understanding something. There is nothing wrong with asking for clarification. Rather, it is the *refusal* to understand which is culpably wrong, it is the refusal to acknowledge and understand clarification which is culpably wrong. And when a refusal to understand is coupled with the sorts of behavior these 'atheists' (the quotes are because they only play at being atheists, for they refuse to understand what atheism entails) constantly exhibit, then such persons make themselves in all ways despicable.

                            Ro0ke wrote:

                            Why are there no such things as innocence and guilt if atheism were indeed the truth about the nature of reality?

                            In a nutshell: Concepts can be explained only by reference to mind(s). These things (innocence/guilt, responsibility/non-responsibility, sanity/insanity, rationality/irrationality, etc) are all concepts; as such, they exist only "within" a mind or minds. But atheism -- the denial that there is a God -- cannot logically make use of invocation of minds to explain anything, for the very nature of atheism is to deny that reality is fundamentally mental. I've made reference above to Richard Dawkins' article explicating his "dangerous idea," 'Let's all stop beating Basil's car,' the thesis of which is that concepts such as responsibility and blame (i.e. holding another responsibile for his actions) are faulty and false concepts, that these (and many other like) concepts do not accurately reflect the true nature of reality. Now, *IF* atheism were indeed the truth about the nature of reality, THEN Dawkins' claims would be correct. The fact that he doesn't himself believe (as he admits and acknowledges in the conclusion of the piece) the view he's trying to advance certainly tells us something interesting about Professor Dawkins, but it doesn't change the fact that the view he is trying to advance follows logically and inescapably from atheism, from the denial that there is a God. Even though the thesis and claims Dawkins advances are false, and even though Dawkins is a liar (for he knows and even admits that he doesn't actually believe the assertions he's advancing), I highly recommend reading his entire article. Two Basic Worldview

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                            Vincent Reynolds
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                            So...let me get this straight...if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's a witch?

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                            • I Ilion

                              Not that an observant person was ever in any doubt as to what 'atheists' are like.

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                              Lost User
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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              Not that an observant person was ever in any doubt as to what 'atheists' are like.

                              No one is learning anything about me arsehole. I have been here since the first week of Code Project and everyone and anyone that matters already knows all about me. You don't, so just fuck off.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                So...let me get this straight...if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's a witch?

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                                Ilion
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                                But we already *knew* that about you.

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                                  I agree with that completely. Human civilizaton is simply not possible without moral authority. But democratic systems make a very poor source for stable, moral authority. If the morality does not emerge naturally from the bottom up (as Jefferson, Madison, et al assumed it would) in the form of traditional religious sentiments and beliefs, than a democratic system will become increasingly less socially stable over time.

                                  Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                  soap brain
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                                  So basically you want to stifle all 'morality' that doesn't agree with those in charge? Religion should be put in charge again, you reckon? That branch of science is immoral! You will stop it at once! Condoms? Oh, no. You will have more children! NOW! Blood transfusion? Think again buddy. Stealing is a SIN! Hands and feet chopped off at once! A dissenter? By our authority, YOU MUST DIE NOW!!! Medicine?! No, no, NO! God gave you herpes for a reason! No, this is MEN'S work! WOMEN must shut up and be loyal, hardworking, downtrodden HOUSEWIVES! And so on.

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                                  • I Ilion

                                    Not that an observant person was ever in any doubt as to what 'atheists' are like.

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                                    soap brain
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                                    Did it ever occur to you that the concept of 'mind' might actually be explained within atheism? That its existence doesn't contradict atheism at all?

                                    Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                      Why do you come here if you hold us all is such ill regards? Are you trying to save sinner's souls by berating them with rhetoric? I don't get it.

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                                      soap brain
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                                      This isn't the only place he comes: http://www.arn.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=30311980&an=0&page=0#Post30311980[^] Believe it or not, he writes in the same pompous, impenetrable way. As though throwing around randomly emphasised 'big words' will make him sound smarter... :doh:

                                      Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Ilíon wrote:

                                        people behave in ways consistent with the philosophy and metaphysics you yourselves espouse

                                        We do NOT espouse boiling babies. Get it? Its simple. YOU are wrong. We DO NOT espouse boiling babies. We espouse the non existence of God. Our morality has a different root from yours. Dont you get it?

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        soap brain
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                                        Do you think he has EVER admitted that he is wrong? He thinks he's God... :doh:

                                        Richard of York gave battle in vain.

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Indeed: I don't think the word has been created to describe this. Perhaps he should be killed much as he attempted to kill his child? 5 minutes at 1000 should do it nicely.

                                          bin the spin home

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                                          Mike Hankey
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                                          digital man wrote:

                                          Perhaps he should be killed much as he attempted to kill his child? 5 minutes at 1000 should do it nicely.

                                          No a long stint in prison will do wonders for him. In prison they treat child molesters and such with special treatment, I believe they call them bitches! Then when he gets out they should cook him! Mike

                                          Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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