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    Vincent Curry
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    Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

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      Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

      Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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      Pete OHanlon
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      To futureproof: (Adjective) To futureproof means the hardware to run this steaming pile of cow doo doesn't exist yet, and won't exist in 20 years time.

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        Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

        Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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        Michael Dunn
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        I think "to futureproof" means "make sure this system won't be obsolete in X years". Make it easily expandable, upgradeable, etc.

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          I think "to futureproof" means "make sure this system won't be obsolete in X years". Make it easily expandable, upgradeable, etc.

          --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ "That's what's great about doing user interface work. No matter what you do, people will say that what you did was idiotic." -- Raymond Chen

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          Vincent Curry
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          Aye, I think that is the meaning, but shouldn't you, unless the customer is after something cheap and quick, make it easily expandable and upgradeable anyway?

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            Aye, I think that is the meaning, but shouldn't you, unless the customer is after something cheap and quick, make it easily expandable and upgradeable anyway?

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            Spacix One
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            ha, then you can't charge $1000's for "upgrades" where it would normally be $100 to add a new module :/


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              Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

              Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              A project I worked on a while back, we wanted to upgrade a client's servers because they could no longer handle the load. They wouldn't let us. They said that part of the contract we had signed stated that the equipment would suit their needs for ten years; upgrading the equipment would mean we hadn't held up our end of the deal. :wtf: Why couldn't the system handle the load? Because their business had grown much more quickly than they had expected.

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                A project I worked on a while back, we wanted to upgrade a client's servers because they could no longer handle the load. They wouldn't let us. They said that part of the contract we had signed stated that the equipment would suit their needs for ten years; upgrading the equipment would mean we hadn't held up our end of the deal. :wtf: Why couldn't the system handle the load? Because their business had grown much more quickly than they had expected.

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                Crysis!


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                • V Vincent Curry

                  Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                  Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                  Vincent Curry wrote:

                  Futureproof

                  How about its reverse definition? Backward-compatible.

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                    Vincent Curry wrote:

                    Futureproof

                    How about its reverse definition? Backward-compatible.

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                    Vincent Curry
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                    Well... the thing is that you can actually clearly define and test whether something is backward compatible - the current version of Office is not for instance, and you can describe which features of a new version of software are backwards compatible with the old one (whether or not the vendor does this or not is another question...). However, with Futureproof, if you ask whether or not something is so, there is no way to demonstrate whether or not it is.

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                      Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                      Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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                      encoding years in 2 fields is not very future proof for example

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                        encoding years in 2 fields is not very future proof for example

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        fat_boy wrote:

                        2 fields

                        Two digits? Two-characters? Or do you mean century separate from two digit year? Either way, no. And neither is using a 32-bit signed integer number of seconds.

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          2 fields

                          Two digits? Two-characters? Or do you mean century separate from two digit year? Either way, no. And neither is using a 32-bit signed integer number of seconds.

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                          Lost User
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                          " digits, 2 chars, 2 ints, doesnt matter. It depends on the data type and its representation. What I was of course getting at is the milenium bug, as if you didnt know. That is a good example of non future proof design.

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                            Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                            Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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                            Rob Smiley
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                            From a coding point of view I guess it means developing in such a way as to make future changes as easy to implement as possible. I don't mean documenting every line of code, but making it as modular and consistent as possible.

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                              encoding years in 2 fields is not very future proof for example

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              VentsyV
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                              I heard on radio that about 5% of all gas meters could not handle gas prices above $4 per gallon... I guess you have to decide how much to futureproof... I bet 10 - 20 years ago, no one imagined gas could reach $4, so at the time this might have been a reasonable limit...

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                                A project I worked on a while back, we wanted to upgrade a client's servers because they could no longer handle the load. They wouldn't let us. They said that part of the contract we had signed stated that the equipment would suit their needs for ten years; upgrading the equipment would mean we hadn't held up our end of the deal. :wtf: Why couldn't the system handle the load? Because their business had grown much more quickly than they had expected.

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                                Fatbuddha 1
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                                Bad luck, but why do someone write these things in the contract. I mean think about, 10 years, thats a long time. in 10 years we may have a pc not comparable with ours right now and the software will be completely out of time. Cheers

                                You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)

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                                  Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                                  Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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                                  KaRl
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                                  It's already difficult enough to make idiotproof products :sigh:

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                                    I heard on radio that about 5% of all gas meters could not handle gas prices above $4 per gallon... I guess you have to decide how much to futureproof... I bet 10 - 20 years ago, no one imagined gas could reach $4, so at the time this might have been a reasonable limit...

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                                    Russell Jones
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                                    we hit a point about 2 years ago in the uk where the price of fuel started approaching £1.00 / litre. It's amazing how quickly the petrol industry changed their price displays / pump displays to accommodate the extra digit.

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                                      Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

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                                      Thomas Stockwell
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                                      A futureproof application is one with an extremely high price tag, naive consumer, and will last as long as any other cheaper application in the market presently.

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                                        Futureproof! WTF! I think I first came across it several years ago whilst I was working for a IT Consultancy, and our Lead Developer was bandying the term around. What exactly is it meant to mean? And how do I tell the difference between an application that is future proof and one that isn't? :mad: Or is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                                        Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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                                        Paul Conrad
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                                        Vincent Curry wrote:

                                        is it just one of those fancy buzz words that is used to sound impressive?

                                        Perhaps so, in order to get marketing people all riled up.

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                          To futureproof: (Adjective) To futureproof means the hardware to run this steaming pile of cow doo doesn't exist yet, and won't exist in 20 years time.

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                                          Paul Conrad
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                                          Good definition. A typical futureproofing tool is a crystal ball perhaps.

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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