Political Statements
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Do you make a distiction between someone who chooses to be an atheist, and someone who just doesn't choose to believe in anything? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Atheist is a word used by people who beleive in God to describe people who do not beleive in God. People who do not beleive in God do not need to call themselves atheists. They are simply 'normal'. Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
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Do you make a distiction between someone who chooses to be an atheist, and someone who just doesn't choose to believe in anything? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
They are the same. Agnostic is someone who is undecided, an athiest be definition does not believe in anything as far as religion is concerned. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Atheist is a word used by people who beleive in God to describe people who do not beleive in God. People who do not beleive in God do not need to call themselves atheists. They are simply 'normal'. Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
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What are you talking about:confused: I'm just saying that sure there are atheists who can be idiots and annoying and trying to convert you, and my point is that that also goes for Christians. And about the crap part. Well, I don't think that Christianity per se is crap. But it can be tirring if people can't accept that I'm not a Christian, or whatever. So stop taking it personally; It wasn't a statement made "againts" you. Or maybe, it's ok for you to critisize atheists, but it's not ok for me to critisize Christians, or what:confused:
Rohde wrote: What are you talking about I think I misunderstood when you said 'just as well'. Rohde wrote: So stop taking it personally; It wasn't a statement made "againts" you. I see that I misunderstood what you were trying to say, and I'm sorry. Rohde wrote: Or maybe, it's ok for you to critisize atheists, but it's not ok for me to critisize Christians, or what No, criticise me all you like, if it's valid I will accept it. Otherwise, I can just practice my new resolve not to be so pig headed... :P Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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They are the same. Agnostic is someone who is undecided, an athiest be definition does not believe in anything as far as religion is concerned. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: They are the same. Agnostic is someone who is undecided, an athiest be definition does not believe in anything as far as religion is concerned. I am undecided but not because I can't make up my mind, it's because I don't feel the need to decide, therefore I'm not an agnostic. Atheism requires "active" belief that God doesn't exist. I don't feel that I "believe" one way or the other. therefore I'm not an atheist either. So what am I? I will agree with a previous post and say that I'm simply "normal". "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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Rohde wrote: What are you talking about I think I misunderstood when you said 'just as well'. Rohde wrote: So stop taking it personally; It wasn't a statement made "againts" you. I see that I misunderstood what you were trying to say, and I'm sorry. Rohde wrote: Or maybe, it's ok for you to critisize atheists, but it's not ok for me to critisize Christians, or what No, criticise me all you like, if it's valid I will accept it. Otherwise, I can just practice my new resolve not to be so pig headed... :P Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Oh ok....maybe I didn't expressed myself properly then :) That can happen. :-D ;P And yes, I have one bone to pick with you!!!! It's a shame you haven't written more of those Image Processing articles. It was a great way for me to learn C# as I know and like image processing. Thanks for 'em. :) :)
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Atheist is a word used by people who beleive in God to describe people who do not beleive in God. People who do not beleive in God do not need to call themselves atheists. They are simply 'normal'. Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
Ahh, but some people who don't believe in God, just don't believe in God, whereas some take great relish at pointing this out to anyone religious at every given possibility -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Christian Graus wrote: They are the same. Agnostic is someone who is undecided, an athiest be definition does not believe in anything as far as religion is concerned. I am undecided but not because I can't make up my mind, it's because I don't feel the need to decide, therefore I'm not an agnostic. Atheism requires "active" belief that God doesn't exist. I don't feel that I "believe" one way or the other. therefore I'm not an atheist either. So what am I? I will agree with a previous post and say that I'm simply "normal". "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
phykell wrote: Atheism requires "active" belief that God doesn't exist. I don't feel that I "believe" one way or the other. therefore I'm not an atheist either. Yeah, that was what I was getting at. I don't really believe anything and I don't not believe anything - I'd be happy to accept that there is a God, it just doesn't really bother me much one way or another) In my view, an Atheist is someone who makes a firm point to say that they strongly believe that there isn't a God -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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phykell wrote: Atheism requires "active" belief that God doesn't exist. I don't feel that I "believe" one way or the other. therefore I'm not an atheist either. Yeah, that was what I was getting at. I don't really believe anything and I don't not believe anything - I'd be happy to accept that there is a God, it just doesn't really bother me much one way or another) In my view, an Atheist is someone who makes a firm point to say that they strongly believe that there isn't a God -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: I'd be happy to accept that there is a God Yeah, that's a crazy thing about many religious types. They talk like we non-believers *deny* their God. I'm sorry, but of course we'd all like to believe in an after-life, some higher reason for our existence, some higher being that loves us and can forgive us, and can provide us with a Heaven once we die. Unfortunately, I'm not able to believe in such things. If he is real, and I stand before Him on Judgement Day, at least I'll be able to say honestly that I would've believed if I'd had it in me. But surely that's his fault for not giving me that ability? Like Mulder says, "I want to believe", because it would make some sense of things (though I feel it would also cause as many questions as ones it answered like the suffering in the World). That's another thing, whenever you mention the suffering in the World and ask how a loving God could allow it to happen, religious types sort of sigh as though they're bored and they're saying inwardly, "not that old chestnut again"... Well, It really is one of the most pertinent questions. Humans do not DESERVE to suffer and there can be no justification for an innocent child being born disfigured or with disabilities. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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Ahh, but some people who don't believe in God, just don't believe in God, whereas some take great relish at pointing this out to anyone religious at every given possibility -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: some take great relish at pointing this out to anyone religious at every given possibility Yeah, I know. People of that sort need lots of patience to deal with. Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
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They are the same. Agnostic is someone who is undecided, an athiest be definition does not believe in anything as far as religion is concerned. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Have you heard of the dyslexic agnostic insomiac? He stayed up all night trying to figure out whether there is a doG. ;P :-D Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
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Oh ok....maybe I didn't expressed myself properly then :) That can happen. :-D ;P And yes, I have one bone to pick with you!!!! It's a shame you haven't written more of those Image Processing articles. It was a great way for me to learn C# as I know and like image processing. Thanks for 'em. :) :)
Rohde wrote: It's a shame you haven't written more of those Image Processing articles. I had more planned, but life is just so busy, and now that I don't do any image stuff at work, I find it harder to justify at home. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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phykell wrote: Atheism requires "active" belief that God doesn't exist. I don't feel that I "believe" one way or the other. therefore I'm not an atheist either. Yeah, that was what I was getting at. I don't really believe anything and I don't not believe anything - I'd be happy to accept that there is a God, it just doesn't really bother me much one way or another) In my view, an Atheist is someone who makes a firm point to say that they strongly believe that there isn't a God -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
That makes you agnostic. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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That makes you agnostic. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
I can't accept that because it sounds like I'm somewhere in the middle, as though I regard it just as possible as impossible. The fact is, that I regard it as highly improbable. I could meet somebody tomorrow who firmly believes he has a little green monster sat on his shoulder which is invisible. I couldn't say that I am 100% sure he is wrong, but neither would I shrug my shoulders and accpet his opinion as a serious possibility. The idea of God is just as ludicrous to me as somebody's own personal invisible monster, yet am I an atheist? No I don't think so, but I'd hardly call myself agnostic either unless the dictionary description was one who had no belief one way or the other. I guess I can just about live with that :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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I can't accept that because it sounds like I'm somewhere in the middle, as though I regard it just as possible as impossible. The fact is, that I regard it as highly improbable. I could meet somebody tomorrow who firmly believes he has a little green monster sat on his shoulder which is invisible. I couldn't say that I am 100% sure he is wrong, but neither would I shrug my shoulders and accpet his opinion as a serious possibility. The idea of God is just as ludicrous to me as somebody's own personal invisible monster, yet am I an atheist? No I don't think so, but I'd hardly call myself agnostic either unless the dictionary description was one who had no belief one way or the other. I guess I can just about live with that :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
phykell wrote: The idea of God is just as ludicrous to me as somebody's own personal invisible monster, yet am I an atheist? The label is pretty much irrelevant. Who cares *what* you are, in terms of what someone says - does it change *who* you are ? If you're an athiest, then you were that before someone attached a label to it for you, so who cares ? phykell wrote: but I'd hardly call myself agnostic either unless the dictionary description was one who had no belief one way or the other. I'd accept that as a definition of agnostic. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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phykell wrote: The idea of God is just as ludicrous to me as somebody's own personal invisible monster, yet am I an atheist? The label is pretty much irrelevant. Who cares *what* you are, in terms of what someone says - does it change *who* you are ? If you're an athiest, then you were that before someone attached a label to it for you, so who cares ? phykell wrote: but I'd hardly call myself agnostic either unless the dictionary description was one who had no belief one way or the other. I'd accept that as a definition of agnostic. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: phykell wrote: but I'd hardly call myself agnostic either unless the dictionary description was one who had no belief one way or the other. I'd accept that as a definition of agnostic. OK, I'll accept that I'm probably "agnostic", though as you also implied, the label is just an attachment. I don't feel I'm anything in particular just because I can't believe in God (note my terminology there - I *can't* believe in God). "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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Atheists == MindControlers;
Commies == Atheists;
Greenies == Commies;I'll elaborate later, if you would care to assist me to prove this please reply. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
Colin Davies wrote: Atheists == MindControlers; This condition would evaluate to
false. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge -
Colin Davies wrote: Atheists == MindControlers; This condition would evaluate to
false. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge -
Have you heard of the dyslexic agnostic insomiac? He stayed up all night trying to figure out whether there is a doG. ;P :-D Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password?
or the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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error C2065: 'Athiests' : undeclared identifier -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!