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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Will this pertain to just Linux or will us Unix-ish guys get a shot too? I already have a crusty ol' FreeBSD article I can polish and submit if so.

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    It's fairly open. I was actually wondering whether a generic 'Unix' category would be best or whether it's best to split it up a little finer than that. Your thoughts?

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      It's fairly open. I was actually wondering whether a generic 'Unix' category would be best or whether it's best to split it up a little finer than that. Your thoughts?

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      I was actually wondering whether a generic 'Unix' category would be best or whether it's best to split it up a little finer than that.

      Normally, I'd say go with Unix, but maybe to avoid the copyright mess it would be best to have specific categories... say for the BSDs... OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, etc. I think a lot of the hardcore Java types would want something specific to Solaris too. When it comes to Linux, distros like Debian are much different than say RedHat also, because they have to do their "own thing" all the time. So, maybe specific and general categories to cover both types of articles? Also, in the open source world, (and I do love my MySQL), alot of people use other RDBMSs as well. Although, MySQL is the most popular by far. But MySQL does have some non-ansi compliant stuff, like most, that's specific to just MySQL (describe, limit, etc.). So maybe we should break that down too. Just food for thought; I'm about to post my PHP ideas in the right forum. Ya know, this is reminding me of unixproject.com. Rock on! :)

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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        I was actually wondering whether a generic 'Unix' category would be best or whether it's best to split it up a little finer than that.

        Normally, I'd say go with Unix, but maybe to avoid the copyright mess it would be best to have specific categories... say for the BSDs... OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, etc. I think a lot of the hardcore Java types would want something specific to Solaris too. When it comes to Linux, distros like Debian are much different than say RedHat also, because they have to do their "own thing" all the time. So, maybe specific and general categories to cover both types of articles? Also, in the open source world, (and I do love my MySQL), alot of people use other RDBMSs as well. Although, MySQL is the most popular by far. But MySQL does have some non-ansi compliant stuff, like most, that's specific to just MySQL (describe, limit, etc.). So maybe we should break that down too. Just food for thought; I'm about to post my PHP ideas in the right forum. Ya know, this is reminding me of unixproject.com. Rock on! :)

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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        this is reminding me of unixproject.com

        ;) Told you we'd do something. Eventually :sigh: We can't actually do 'UnixProject' because it contains the name 'Unix' which would get us sued. Here we are, promoting the platform, and they get cranky. What_everrrr_ We did consider having unix.codeproject.com and wrapping everything under that but then we'd have the same problems. I'm not close enough to the Unix community yet to know whether having unix under a LAMP umbrella would be a Bad Thing In all of this we can add attributes for FreeBSD, Solaris etc - that's no problem. But it's the categories (eg Linux at the top) that are the tricky bit

        cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          this is reminding me of unixproject.com

          ;) Told you we'd do something. Eventually :sigh: We can't actually do 'UnixProject' because it contains the name 'Unix' which would get us sued. Here we are, promoting the platform, and they get cranky. What_everrrr_ We did consider having unix.codeproject.com and wrapping everything under that but then we'd have the same problems. I'm not close enough to the Unix community yet to know whether having unix under a LAMP umbrella would be a Bad Thing In all of this we can add attributes for FreeBSD, Solaris etc - that's no problem. But it's the categories (eg Linux at the top) that are the tricky bit

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I'm not close enough to the Unix community yet to know whether having unix under a LAMP umbrella would be a Bad Thing

          Well, unfortunately, most people are religious with this stuff. Its a lot like Mac and Windows. I mean, there are a few sane ones out there, but you get the idea. Most of the Linux diehards like Linux-this and Linux-that and most of the BSD ones like BSD-this and BSD-that and so on. I'll give more thought behind a possible structure to see if you like it... later. I gotta get some work done before my boss catches on to me being here instead of meeting a deadline today. :laugh: And I'm sure you know this, but the advertising revenue from the Java camp, lets just say wouldn't hurt you. Being "enterprisey" means cash to spend. Just don't forget about us PHP guys. :)

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            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            this is reminding me of unixproject.com

            ;) Told you we'd do something. Eventually :sigh: We can't actually do 'UnixProject' because it contains the name 'Unix' which would get us sued. Here we are, promoting the platform, and they get cranky. What_everrrr_ We did consider having unix.codeproject.com and wrapping everything under that but then we'd have the same problems. I'm not close enough to the Unix community yet to know whether having unix under a LAMP umbrella would be a Bad Thing In all of this we can add attributes for FreeBSD, Solaris etc - that's no problem. But it's the categories (eg Linux at the top) that are the tricky bit

            cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            because it contains the name 'Unix'

            Here are some thoughts on it to help garnish some ideas... Typically, the term "*nix" is used now to handle that. For a domain, you could use nix.cp.com or asternix.cp.com to cover everything. This would also include Linux. AFAIK nix and asternix aren't trademarked and its still pretty popular. Also, I've been thinking, to keep in line with that you have already where the sites are OS-centric (minus Java) and considering most people are religious anyway... Have a look-see at this OS-centric hierarchy to get an idea of how it all fits (potentially)...

               CP
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            Win Java Nix Mac
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            Win Any | Mac
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            System V BSD Linux Other
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            A/UX FreeBSD RedHat Minix
            IRIX OpenBSD SuSE SCO
            Solaris NetBSD Debian etc.
            Darwin etc.

            Assuming we don't care about the "other" category (and not many do these days). You could have the following and not be sued... cp.com (www or default) java.cp.com linux.cp.com bsd.cp.com systemv.cp.com The only overlap would be in regards to something like Java people having to go to systemv.cp.com for Solaris specific stuff. But, to me this is ok, since one of the huge philosophies behind Java is to be able to run it anywhere. And since BSD camps and Linux camps could get religious, then you would avoid that. However, the big downside is redundant stuff like a PHP forum/articles, which could fit in any category - including Windows. Do the sites have the ability to share articles/forums? If so, maybe it's not that big a deal after all if PHP, etc. is the same across the board. Anyway, just brainstorming here to help give you ideas.

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              this is reminding me of unixproject.com

              ;) Told you we'd do something. Eventually :sigh: We can't actually do 'UnixProject' because it contains the name 'Unix' which would get us sued. Here we are, promoting the platform, and they get cranky. What_everrrr_ We did consider having unix.codeproject.com and wrapping everything under that but then we'd have the same problems. I'm not close enough to the Unix community yet to know whether having unix under a LAMP umbrella would be a Bad Thing In all of this we can add attributes for FreeBSD, Solaris etc - that's no problem. But it's the categories (eg Linux at the top) that are the tricky bit

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Also, to stop the n00b babies from whining the site is running ASP.NET, what about remapping the HTM/HTML mime types to ASP.NET and end the extensions in .htm or something for these sites? Would that break everything if so?

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                Will this pertain to just Linux or will us Unix-ish guys get a shot too? I already have a crusty ol' FreeBSD article I can polish and submit if so.

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                Hey Jeremy! Welcome back I haven't seen you in a while. How's your game engine going? Cheers

                A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                  It's fairly open. I was actually wondering whether a generic 'Unix' category would be best or whether it's best to split it up a little finer than that. Your thoughts?

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Would you mind some Python mixed in? My company has been knee deep in Python dev for a couple of years now and I've been coding Python professionally since 2000. One thing that has always frustrated me is the lack of anything like CP for Python.

                  A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                    Would you mind some Python mixed in? My company has been knee deep in Python dev for a couple of years now and I've been coding Python professionally since 2000. One thing that has always frustrated me is the lack of anything like CP for Python.

                    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                    Python is definitely welcome!

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Hey Jeremy! Welcome back I haven't seen you in a while. How's your game engine going? Cheers

                      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      Welcome back I haven't seen you in a while.

                      Thanks man. I've been playing hooky on the other CP for a few years up until... well still. :)

                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      How's your game engine going?

                      Not nearly as well I was would like. Since, Katrina and um, me being lazy. I've had a few jobs that, we'll lets just say, make me wish I had more money. :-D So, since I have to make a living first I need to make some websites I've been telling myself I'd make for years but put off, and then I hope to return to Oatmeal. Or, at least get them started while working on it. Of course, with me being me, if I'm gonna rely on these sites, I'm gonna know them forward and backwards, so that led me to starting a project called BytePattern[^] - which is a PHP framework with one thing in mind and that's performance. Of course, it's still rough, but I have a some time scheduled soon to put some hours into it. So, how are things in your neck of the woods. Still into real estate?

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