Onan's spilling...
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///////////// CONTENT WARNING \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ IGNORE IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED How many times a week do you commit Onan's sin? Do you even view it as a sin? I recently had a woman who thought it was cheating! :confused: She asked me if I did it, and when I told her yes, she got very upset.
I actually heard a doctor on a radio show (the kind of radio show to have real doctors, not just people who talk crap) who said that it's actually healthy and beneficial, since the sperm you ejaculate when you masturbate are the weaker ones, meaning you're leaving the stronger ones available for when/if you do have sex -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Everybody does it. I just don't count how often. Is it a sin? No, it's a natural act. Martin Marvinski wrote: I recently had a woman who thought it was cheating Yeah and like she doesn't use the right hand for a kit-kat shuffle :-D Michael :-) Look, try and use your intelligence, man, even if you are a politician. - The Doctor
Michael P Butler wrote: Yeah and like she doesn't use the right hand for a kit-kat shuffle :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: The kit-kat shuffle? LMAO! Never heard that one. And I am still struggling to imagine what a kit-kat (as in the cholocate bar?) has to do with, well, a woman. Michael P Butler wrote: I just don't count how often. I know, it is hard to count so high... :rolleyes: :laugh: ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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I actually heard a doctor on a radio show (the kind of radio show to have real doctors, not just people who talk crap) who said that it's actually healthy and beneficial, since the sperm you ejaculate when you masturbate are the weaker ones, meaning you're leaving the stronger ones available for when/if you do have sex -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: who said that it's actually healthy and beneficial, since the sperm you ejaculate when you masturbate are the weaker ones, meaning you're leaving the stronger ones available for when/if you do have sex Benjymous, I regard you as a pretty smart guy and I groan every time I see a post by you in response to one of mine because I know I am in for a well written and intelligent counter arguement which leaves me on shaky ground. However, how on earth can you believe that spanking the monkey sorts the bad sperm from the good sperm? How does your "system" know that you are spanking and therefore should be ejecting the retarded sperm and not that you are with a women and therefore should be firing the good ones? If this was true every sperm donor bank in the world would be closing up shop right now because, well, they don't exactly collect sperm by waiting until you are "done" with a women and then "extracting" the fired sperm. They do it by you spanking the monkey while Thelma The Leather Clad Queen cheers you on. Spanking is beneficial though, it keeps you from going starkers when your girlfriend is at that time of the month. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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///////////// CONTENT WARNING \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ IGNORE IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED How many times a week do you commit Onan's sin? Do you even view it as a sin? I recently had a woman who thought it was cheating! :confused: She asked me if I did it, and when I told her yes, she got very upset.
Martin Marvinski wrote: She asked me if I did it, and when I told her yes, she got very upset. Well I can understand that. Apparently a lot of woman think that way as they do not understand why we commit Onan's Brothers Sin (Onan withdrew, his brother never got the chance... :rolleyes: .) They take it the same way as they take our fantasies about other women. One thing, did you instead of telling her she was wrong, try and masturbate together? It is a very erotic and wonderful thing to do, something which can make you both more comfortable with your bodies and so with each other. Obviously with her you cannot just spring this idea on her in one night, be a bit subtle (not underhanded) about it. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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benjymous wrote: who said that it's actually healthy and beneficial, since the sperm you ejaculate when you masturbate are the weaker ones, meaning you're leaving the stronger ones available for when/if you do have sex Benjymous, I regard you as a pretty smart guy and I groan every time I see a post by you in response to one of mine because I know I am in for a well written and intelligent counter arguement which leaves me on shaky ground. However, how on earth can you believe that spanking the monkey sorts the bad sperm from the good sperm? How does your "system" know that you are spanking and therefore should be ejecting the retarded sperm and not that you are with a women and therefore should be firing the good ones? If this was true every sperm donor bank in the world would be closing up shop right now because, well, they don't exactly collect sperm by waiting until you are "done" with a women and then "extracting" the fired sperm. They do it by you spanking the monkey while Thelma The Leather Clad Queen cheers you on. Spanking is beneficial though, it keeps you from going starkers when your girlfriend is at that time of the month. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: Benjymous, I regard you as a pretty smart guy :-O Paul Watson wrote: However, how on earth can you believe that spanking the monkey sorts the bad sperm from the good sperm? I didn't say that was what I believed, just what I've heard a doctor say. I'd do a google search to try and find some kind of evidence one way or the other, but I'm at work, and it probably wouldn't be a good idea... I guess there's a possibility that there's some kind of psychological difference (as you do know the difference, so perhaps different hormones are released, triggering different sperm to charge), but that's just idle speculation Although I've no idea what happens with a woman on the receiving end of donated sperm, but the fact that they don't swim very well probably isn't a problem (a dead sperm can still fertilise an egg, if given a "push") -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Paul Watson wrote: Benjymous, I regard you as a pretty smart guy :-O Paul Watson wrote: However, how on earth can you believe that spanking the monkey sorts the bad sperm from the good sperm? I didn't say that was what I believed, just what I've heard a doctor say. I'd do a google search to try and find some kind of evidence one way or the other, but I'm at work, and it probably wouldn't be a good idea... I guess there's a possibility that there's some kind of psychological difference (as you do know the difference, so perhaps different hormones are released, triggering different sperm to charge), but that's just idle speculation Although I've no idea what happens with a woman on the receiving end of donated sperm, but the fact that they don't swim very well probably isn't a problem (a dead sperm can still fertilise an egg, if given a "push") -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Michael P Butler wrote: Yeah and like she doesn't use the right hand for a kit-kat shuffle :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: The kit-kat shuffle? LMAO! Never heard that one. And I am still struggling to imagine what a kit-kat (as in the cholocate bar?) has to do with, well, a woman. Michael P Butler wrote: I just don't count how often. I know, it is hard to count so high... :rolleyes: :laugh: ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: The kit-kat shuffle? LMAO! Never heard that one. Me either, but I think it has to do with a KitKat having fingers..... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Martin Marvinski wrote: She asked me if I did it, and when I told her yes, she got very upset. Well I can understand that. Apparently a lot of woman think that way as they do not understand why we commit Onan's Brothers Sin (Onan withdrew, his brother never got the chance... :rolleyes: .) They take it the same way as they take our fantasies about other women. One thing, did you instead of telling her she was wrong, try and masturbate together? It is a very erotic and wonderful thing to do, something which can make you both more comfortable with your bodies and so with each other. Obviously with her you cannot just spring this idea on her in one night, be a bit subtle (not underhanded) about it. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: Obviously with her you cannot just spring this idea on her in one night, be a bit subtle (not underhanded) about it. Hehe - I have a mental image of Martin going for it on himself and saying 'go in, get into it' to the girl..... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Yeah, that makes sense. If you get rid of all the old ones, then when you come to acutally have proper sex, it'll just be new fresh healthy fast-swimming sperm waiting. And when I come to think about it, they freeze sperm when it goes to sperm banks, so it doesn't matter in the slightest whether they can swim straight or not (since they'll all be frozen). All that matters are the little DNA packets they're carrying -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Yeah, that makes sense. If you get rid of all the old ones, then when you come to acutally have proper sex, it'll just be new fresh healthy fast-swimming sperm waiting. And when I come to think about it, they freeze sperm when it goes to sperm banks, so it doesn't matter in the slightest whether they can swim straight or not (since they'll all be frozen). All that matters are the little DNA packets they're carrying -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Although the ones that they freeze do not have to swim much at all. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Although the ones that they freeze do not have to swim much at all. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Yeah, that was what I meant ;P -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Paul Watson wrote: The kit-kat shuffle? LMAO! Never heard that one. Me either, but I think it has to do with a KitKat having fingers..... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Chocolate coated fingers... .. no, best not go there X| -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. I'm no expert but I don't think this is right. If you do it more than every couple of days your sperm count drops because your body can't keep up, but if you don't do it for more than 10 days, your sperm count drops too (I guess your body stops making them). I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. So if you are try for a baby, every few days is optimum :). And obviously, doing it with a woman helps :laugh: Ali
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Christian Graus wrote: The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. I'm no expert but I don't think this is right. If you do it more than every couple of days your sperm count drops because your body can't keep up, but if you don't do it for more than 10 days, your sperm count drops too (I guess your body stops making them). I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. So if you are try for a baby, every few days is optimum :). And obviously, doing it with a woman helps :laugh: Ali
Alison Pentland wrote: . If you do it more than every couple of days your sperm count drops because your body can't keep up, but if you don't do it for more than 10 days, your sperm count drops too (I guess your body stops making them). I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. I got my info from the doctor when we were trying. Although I'll admit trying for Hannah was just Donna going off the pill and we continued to do it about 15 times a week, and it took us 2 1/2 years to fall pregnant. Trying for Calvin, it was more once every two months, ( I am not kidding ), and it took less time. I must admit that being a man of flesh and blood, the sperm she got when we were trying for Calvin were not ever two months old :-O So maybe you are right. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Chocolate coated fingers... .. no, best not go there X| -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: .. no, best not go there Too late... the mind boggles (and the loins stir) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Christian Graus wrote: The fact is, if you're trying for a baby, the more you ejaculate ( one way or the other ) the better, because it means the sperm is always *fresh*. I'm no expert but I don't think this is right. If you do it more than every couple of days your sperm count drops because your body can't keep up, but if you don't do it for more than 10 days, your sperm count drops too (I guess your body stops making them). I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. So if you are try for a baby, every few days is optimum :). And obviously, doing it with a woman helps :laugh: Ali
Alison Pentland wrote: I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. I love the way people always throw in a "disclaimer" after talking about uncomfortable (even slightly) topics. Like "I hear masturbating ten times a day is bad. At least that is errr what the guy on TV said, not like I do you know, just what I heard, ok?" Do you have kids Alison? Janina likes to tease me every few months by taking out baby and bridal books from the library. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Paul Watson wrote: Obviously with her you cannot just spring this idea on her in one night, be a bit subtle (not underhanded) about it. Hehe - I have a mental image of Martin going for it on himself and saying 'go in, get into it' to the girl..... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Hehe - I have a mental image of Martin going for it on himself and saying 'go in, get into it' to the girl..... Benjymous' reply of chocolate fingers was oh so much better a mental image than Martin Mavinski spanking the monkey with a pissed off girlfriend looking on in shocked puzzlement. "You want ME to do WHAT in front of YOU?!?! Take your hand off your penis when I am talking to you Martin! OMG you bastard!" I feel so dirty now X| regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Alison Pentland wrote: I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. I love the way people always throw in a "disclaimer" after talking about uncomfortable (even slightly) topics. Like "I hear masturbating ten times a day is bad. At least that is errr what the guy on TV said, not like I do you know, just what I heard, ok?" Do you have kids Alison? Janina likes to tease me every few months by taking out baby and bridal books from the library. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: I love the way people always throw in a "disclaimer" after talking about uncomfortable (even slightly) topics. Hmmm, yes, well I don't normaly talk about this kind of thing, especially to guys, and I know most of you are guys. I'm very reserved, and I blush at the slightest thing. (Yes, I am blushing right now :-O ). I've responded to all sorts of postings on CP, its weird - I suppose not being able to see people's faces makes it so much easier. Anyway, it wasn't just a disclaimer. I was trying to show my 'sources'. That is, trying to show that it wasn't just something 'some bloke told me'. I like to do this is I disagree factually with people, to show I'm not just having a go a them. Paul Watson wrote: Do you have kids Alison? Janina likes to tease me every few months by taking out baby and bridal books from the library. No. But we are trying for them. Ssshhh, don't tell anyon, its a secret OK. ;) Ali
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Alison Pentland wrote: . If you do it more than every couple of days your sperm count drops because your body can't keep up, but if you don't do it for more than 10 days, your sperm count drops too (I guess your body stops making them). I was reading a book about fertility the other day - that's how I know. I got my info from the doctor when we were trying. Although I'll admit trying for Hannah was just Donna going off the pill and we continued to do it about 15 times a week, and it took us 2 1/2 years to fall pregnant. Trying for Calvin, it was more once every two months, ( I am not kidding ), and it took less time. I must admit that being a man of flesh and blood, the sperm she got when we were trying for Calvin were not ever two months old :-O So maybe you are right. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: the sperm she got when we were trying for Calvin were not ever two months old Don't blush, I'm not into judging people ;). 2 1/2 years is quite a long time. I'm glad you got two lovely kids at the end of it :). Ali
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Paul Watson wrote: I love the way people always throw in a "disclaimer" after talking about uncomfortable (even slightly) topics. Hmmm, yes, well I don't normaly talk about this kind of thing, especially to guys, and I know most of you are guys. I'm very reserved, and I blush at the slightest thing. (Yes, I am blushing right now :-O ). I've responded to all sorts of postings on CP, its weird - I suppose not being able to see people's faces makes it so much easier. Anyway, it wasn't just a disclaimer. I was trying to show my 'sources'. That is, trying to show that it wasn't just something 'some bloke told me'. I like to do this is I disagree factually with people, to show I'm not just having a go a them. Paul Watson wrote: Do you have kids Alison? Janina likes to tease me every few months by taking out baby and bridal books from the library. No. But we are trying for them. Ssshhh, don't tell anyon, its a secret OK. ;) Ali
Alison Pentland wrote: I've responded to all sorts of postings on CP, its weird - I suppose not being able to see people's faces makes it so much easier. You would never believe how shy I am in real life from the way I go off on CP, but I am. For me it is more the voice, I can write and type far better than I can speak and so up goes the confidence online, in letters and down goes the confidence on the telephone or face-to-face. Alison Pentland wrote: But we are trying for them. Ssshhh, don't tell anyon, its a secret OK. ;) , it is safe with me. Just don't blush when the doctor delivers ok? :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!