Evolution works in mysterious ways

Paul Watson

I am an aethist and I have moral restraint. Haven't bashed your brains in yet, have I? Stuck. Record.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

CataclysmicQuantum

Paul Watson wrote:

What are you, 5?

How can I be a number? Yes, I am the number 5. Brilliant!

The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

Matthew Faithfull

Oakman wrote:

Well the translations don't always agree with each other

Those who have never read the whole tend to massively exagerate the trivial differenes between translations for their own ends. It's seldom even worth arguing about. There are now unfortunately a number of highly corrupted modern 'translations' particularly coming out of the US, stick with an NIV or Good News or something with equivalent academic pedigree and you won't go far wrong.

Oakman wrote:

You aren't one of these guys who thinks that God spoke Elizabethan English, are you?

I'm sure he did at the time, he's considerate like that. :)

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Lost User

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

Because randomness swamps fractional selective advantage, 500 bad chess players can beat one good one on average, especially if pieces don't always move as either side chooses.

This is a false analogy - because the number of players don't stay the same. If every "win" creates a new player, and B wins preferentially over A, then eventually there will be more B players than A players. Do the math. Presto! Evolution! The mutation rate and generation time are perfectly in line with what's been observed. Presto! Evolution!

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Al Beback

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

The more you look the less evolution and more de-evolution you will see.

So this "de-evolution"... is it part of God's plan?

- Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. - Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. - Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil? - Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? Epicurus

Matthew Faithfull

It's Faithfull, two ll's and yes it is real and pretty rare, only 3 or 4 families in the UK. In our case its an English transliteration of a corrupted Irish Gealic word which was originally a rude name given to Viking invaders who steal our daughters. At least according to my great Aunt Kay's research. Not as rare as Heher pronounced like 'hair', on my mother's side, only one family in the entire world, also Irish although most of them left during the great potato famine.

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Paul Watson

CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

Yes, I am the number 5

You're a robot from a movie controlled by a bunch of guys with RF transmitters? Explains a lot...

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Matthew Faithfull

That's what we call common grace but of course you're not allowed to believe in that :laugh:

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

CataclysmicQuantum

A robot can't jack off to porn on the internet though, ahh the simple human pleasures.

The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

Paul Watson

The five guys controlling you can though.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Paul Watson

I'm allowed to believe in whatever I want to believe, no book or person tells me otherwise. Can be tough and means frequent changes but it does make me responsible for all my actions, unable to do things in the name of someone else.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Matthew Faithfull

Thomas George wrote:

but please bear in mind that proving that the theory of evolution is wrong does not automatically prove the theory of creation.

I have no desire or need to 'prove the theory of creation', firstly as for the reasons we agree it connot be proved and secondly becuase it is not a theory.

Thomas George wrote:

there is no dispute yet in the scientific community regarding the common origins of the animal kingdom;

Not so, there has always been dispute and probably always will be. Newton's laws and evolution are not readily comparable. Newton was stating fundamental universal laws describing reality. Evolutionists, despite recent denials here, are looking for an explanation of observable facts within the framework of the known laws. They have not yet found such an explanantion that does not contradict those laws, yes they will keep searching but to falsely claim success and to falsely claim the theory hasn't changed fundamentally over time and is not therfore a different theory ( This is implicit in calling it Darwinian evolution ) is wrong. Also to interpret all the evidence gathered accoring to the theory they are supposed to be falsifying before evaluating it is bad science. This doesn't just go on with evolution but is sadly a plague in modern science.

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Lost User

CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

Your mom?

No.

CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

Do you like smelly raw fish?

Yes.

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Paul Watson

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

Irish Gealic word which was originally a rude name given to Viking invaders who steal our daughters

I live in Waterford, were the vikings landed in Ireland. The locals call the vikings grandad and grandma here ;)

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

only one family in the entire world

That is amazing. I wonder how many other "unique" surnames there are in the world. Mine is common enough. Though if I tried to pronounce Heher I'd probably insult your mother's side by referring to a young, female cow.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

CataclysmicQuantum

fat_boy wrote:

Yes.

Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

Lost User

CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

After it is cooked, yes.

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Matthew Faithfull

B doesn't win 500 times more than A so once again your math is wrong. By the time B has gone on two generations it's indestinguishable in terms of superiority from A because of it's accumulated damage. You do the math, Presto extinction!

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Matthew Faithfull

I'd have to say yes, just as everything else that happens in God's world is part of his plan and subject to his forknowledge. Can't say I understand that plan but then I'm not God. If you have a specific query you should ask him.

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

CataclysmicQuantum

fat_boy wrote:

After it is cooked, yes.

Eww, so after you have fucked her and dumped in her you get down and lick and suck the juices?

The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

Oakman

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

There are now unfortunately a number of highly corrupted modern 'translations' particularly coming out of the US, stick with an NIV or Good News or something with equivalent academic pedigree and you won't go far wrong.

Interesting. You've never read the originals, but you know which translations are accurate. I wish I was that clever.

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