Windows programming no more interesting!
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
Well, I don't know if I would say that it isn't interesting. Sometimes I think it's a little too interesting :) Too much stuff changes. To some degree, the success of Windows has brought on these challenges, and they are quite unavoidable I think. You have to test against 28 target OSs, SPs, etc., if you release a product. That's just the way it is. In-fact, it seems to me that dedicated testing is one of the big things the off-shore firms are doing. Don't think the world is any easier for the Java guys. I know from speaking with friends at the KL Group that they test against tons and tons and tons of target platforms, VMs, Application Servers, OSs, etc. As I am in North America I don't see the second class citizen treatment that you receive from Microsoft, but just a few years ago it was nearly impossible to get on a Microsoft Beta if you were outside the US. As a product developer that makes components, you can imagine how frigging hard that made competition with our US rivals. So is it easier to get respect in Linux? Well, right now maybe it is. I'm not sure how well Red Hat treats developers outside the US, but I'd make the wild assumption that they are so busy keeping up with US demand that everyone else is pushed to the bottom of the TODO list. Although I love all the new technology, I do miss the simplicity of good 'ole DOS development. You could tell your clients to buy an Epson-80 printer, a particular modem, and we controlled them. :) Now, the clients are in control, and we have to test on every possible configuration that they might reasonably use..
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
Thats why you save your money and buy a subscription.... Less stress and you save money... as far as the .NET stuff, works great on my win2k: 300mhz: 48mb RAM machine. what do you want anyway it's prerelease software..... if you really want so much control... build your own OS...
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
wait...I think I hear a weed eater.... no just the lack of devotion don't TAKE the dive, unless your willing to swim because you just might drown
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
Now.... Get up..... dust yourself off and..... LETS GO!!!
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric,victim rhetoric, victim rhetoric...... and it will work w/sp1. learn to swim though to seaweed
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
I've been playing with Linux for the last couple weeks, and it is NOT the solution! I've installed a Corel and Mandrake distributation, and BOTH have crashed about 1/3 of the time I've used it!!! So much for the Linux stability!! .....maybe it wasn't a good install you say?? Well if it can't be installed easily, how good can it be?!? Aside from the crashes, it boots very slowly (hey....I try to save power by shutting down my computer!) and even the much touted GNOME UI looks pretty poor. Maybe for a bunch of Unix weenie Linux is a step forward, but for me, its been a step backwards....
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For most of us the hobbyists, it is becoming less and less justifiable to program for Windows. Just consider the following carefully... 1. On Windows it is MS Office first: MS will make sure they get the best out of the GUI toolkit before releasing it to the public. You cannot even now use Agent in your own application. 2. If it does not make Bill happy then forget it: WTL is a cool effort to help simplify programming with Windows, but it simply does not make it possible for Bill to fight Java so it is just out there for "if you care". 3. If you do not have the money then forget it: I spent a lot to buy the Enterprise edition of VS6.0, to get database programming but now I have to pay for 5+ OS versions to test my software--start counting Win95, Win95b, Win98, WinME, WinNT 4.0 (just leave the sp out), win2000, not to meantion the Win95J etc. The so-called .NET preview is released, but you need Win2000 to use it. It will not even work if you have the sp1 installed. 4. If you do not live in the US then sleep in peace: Many software releases that are honored enough to merit CD-ROM cut get posted only to US resident. In fact to get the most out of my Enterprise edition, I had to let someone buy it from the US and register it there before sending me the pack. This way he get the sp CDs and others, and post them to me. Downloading 84 MB of .NET SDK is just not worth the time, especially when you have to buy a new PC to use it. This and others will never see the CD-ROM cut, and even now the platform SDK does never gets on CD-ROM even though each release of IE does, even bug fixes. Why? maybe this does not provide a way for Bill to clear Netscape. With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
Paul wrote:
With more and more life coming into the Linux community, it will become very difficult to justify any time on Windows.
Interesting comment in hindsight - over 6 years on and Windows is still very strong. Vista is becoming available and a lot of people will be making the switch. I tried Linux a few months back and as far as I can see it still isn't suitable as a home or desktop system yet. I don't have the time to learn how to fiddle about with the settings in order to get something to work that just plugs and plays on Windows. I spent a fair few days trying to figure out how to get a network card to work before I gave up and reinstalled windows. Linux will improve, but it still has a long way to go before it becomes generally acceptable as a desktop operating system.
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