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  • I Ilion

    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

    He has no idea what he's talking about - he (and probably you as well) think that evolution is driven by motivation. :doh:

    Considering how well (and how frequently) you (yes, you!) "misunderstand" direct statements I've made on relatively simple topics, no one should put much stock in your insinuation. Besides which, you (yes, you!) don't understand "evolution." Hell, you don't even know what you mean by the term most of the time when you use it.

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    I'd really enjoy discussing evolution with someone, but unfortunately you're a moron.

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      shiftedbitmonkey wrote:

      And my interpretation of the meaning of theory isn't wrong.

      Yes it is.

      shiftedbitmonkey wrote:

      Until it becomes an undeniable, indisputable fact, it is still just a theory.

      There are no such things as 'facts' in science - theories are as good as it gets.

      shiftedbitmonkey wrote:

      My point is that evolution as a description is incomplete. Which I'm fine with. There are some gaps. Which I'm also fine with.

      How do you know it's incomplete? What gaps?

      shiftedbitmonkey wrote:

      But it is unscientific to assume that the case is closed.

      The only people who assume that are religious people.

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      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      shiftedbitmonkey wrote: And my interpretation of the meaning of theory isn't wrong. Yes it is.

      Profound. You like to argue I think.

      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      There are no such things as 'facts' in science - theories are as good as it gets.

      Exactly my point. You have to keep an open mind that you might not have figured it all out so you are available when new data arrives. That is my entire point.

      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      The only people who assume that are religious people.

      Bullpucky. When I say its unscientific to assume the case is closed, I don't mean evolution might be proven false. I'm not religious. Get off that train of thought. You are pigeon holed by your insistence that any resistance to established thought is from a religious perspective. Mine is that new data is constantly available as our understanding changes. Case in point: Today in the lounge.[^] I'm not disputing evolution. I'm stating that we are better served by always seeking new data that might reveal more than we understood. Newton was trumped by Einstein in some ways, Einstein is trumped by Hawkins in some ways. All three of them have been considered crazy in their day. Enjoy that thought.

      I've heard more said about less.

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      • I Ilion

        shiftedbitmonkey wrote:

        You are free to screw yourself. ... You, are ill.

        And you're a moron (Man! Just look at all that moronic rant I didn't quote.) The first principle of Buddhism is that there exist no selves, at all. If God were indeed a Buddhist, he must perforce deny that you exist and that he exists.

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        Ilíon wrote:

        And you're a moron (Man! Just look at all that moronic rant I didn't quote.)

        Oooh, you are so eloquent. Look at that craftily worded beatdown. Is that all you are capable of when confronted with opposition? Name calling? How .... kindergarten.

        Ilíon wrote:

        The first principle of Buddhism is that there exist no selves, at all.

        Bullshite. You are confusing the ego with self. Also, take a look at Shinto Buddhism. They have the God concept integrated. The first principle of Buddhism is enlightenment. Good luck with your attitude.

        I've heard more said about less.

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          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

          shiftedbitmonkey wrote: And my interpretation of the meaning of theory isn't wrong. Yes it is.

          Profound. You like to argue I think.

          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

          There are no such things as 'facts' in science - theories are as good as it gets.

          Exactly my point. You have to keep an open mind that you might not have figured it all out so you are available when new data arrives. That is my entire point.

          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

          The only people who assume that are religious people.

          Bullpucky. When I say its unscientific to assume the case is closed, I don't mean evolution might be proven false. I'm not religious. Get off that train of thought. You are pigeon holed by your insistence that any resistance to established thought is from a religious perspective. Mine is that new data is constantly available as our understanding changes. Case in point: Today in the lounge.[^] I'm not disputing evolution. I'm stating that we are better served by always seeking new data that might reveal more than we understood. Newton was trumped by Einstein in some ways, Einstein is trumped by Hawkins in some ways. All three of them have been considered crazy in their day. Enjoy that thought.

          I've heard more said about less.

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          soap brain
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          What are we even arguing about? :confused:

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            What are we even arguing about? :confused:

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            Good question... no worries. Still getting used to the general attitude of the soapbox. Cheers: :beer:

            I've heard more said about less.

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              I'd really enjoy discussing evolution with someone, but unfortunately you're a moron.

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              Ilion
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              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              I'd really enjoy discussing evolution with someone, but unfortunately you're a moron.

              And you're an ass. A moron can't help what he is. An ass chooses to be an ass.

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                Ilíon wrote:

                And you're a moron (Man! Just look at all that moronic rant I didn't quote.)

                Oooh, you are so eloquent. Look at that craftily worded beatdown. Is that all you are capable of when confronted with opposition? Name calling? How .... kindergarten.

                Ilíon wrote:

                The first principle of Buddhism is that there exist no selves, at all.

                Bullshite. You are confusing the ego with self. Also, take a look at Shinto Buddhism. They have the God concept integrated. The first principle of Buddhism is enlightenment. Good luck with your attitude.

                I've heard more said about less.

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                Ilion
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                And you're a fool. You'll fit right in with these other fools.

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                • I Ilion

                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  I'd really enjoy discussing evolution with someone, but unfortunately you're a moron.

                  And you're an ass. A moron can't help what he is. An ass chooses to be an ass.

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                  soap brain
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                  Whoa, is that supposed to be an insult? No, please stop...you're hurting me....real bad. :doh:

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                  • S soap brain

                    Whoa, is that supposed to be an insult? No, please stop...you're hurting me....real bad. :doh:

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                    No, he's admitting that he's a moron and just can't help it.

                    I've heard more said about less.

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                    • I Ilion

                      And you're a fool. You'll fit right in with these other fools.

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                      shiftedbitmonkey
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                      Isn't there something in the bible regarding calling someone a fool? For some reason your insults don't insult me. No weight to them. Just a bunch of fluff. Kinda like the village idiot telling someone their stupid. Whatever. I do have a serious question for you. In my short time here I've noticed that the bulk of your posts are just name calling. This alone speaks volumes. My question is: Is that your only tactic when faced with debate?

                      I've heard more said about less.

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                      • I Ilion

                        And you're a fool. You'll fit right in with these other fools.

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                        Ilíon wrote:

                        And you're a fool. You'll fit right in with these other fools.

                        Troy! I thought you were dead! What are you doing hiding back here on page 32??? How are things in Mansfield?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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