Are the Russians justified in attacking Georgia?
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oilFactotum wrote:
You won't even acknowledge the sacrifice of those French soldiers. What a tool!
they were ambushed idiot.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
So what are you saying? That they were stupid to get ambushed and deserved to die? Do you feel the same way about the 1700 US soldiers who have died by IED in Iraq?
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France and some other allies had seemed reluctant to back a U.S. hard line against Moscow before the meeting, but Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner expressed exasperation at Russia's failure to pull back its troops in line with the peace deal brokered last week by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. and of course the Russions are upset by the French "exasperation". It helps the Georgians ever so much. [^]
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Sarkozy and Kouchner are buffons. That said, I don't see why we should be consider responsible for the incoherences of the US foreign policy, making opposite statements when regarding Kosovo and South Ossetia. Next, why should we help Georgia, a country which deliberately chose to use force and shell civilians?
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You won't even acknowledge the sacrifice of those French soldiers. What a tool!
There's no question that 1:1 French soldiers can be equally brave, foolhardy, noble, base, cowardly, effective, or bumbling as any other nation's troops. In WWII they often fought well - more often for the Nazis than for the Allies, but well, nevertheless. However, time and again, The French generals have shown themselves to be vain, pompous, short-sighted, and incompetent. Thus the French has developed a deserved reputation for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The death of any man is to be regretted, unless he is a criminal like Bin Laden. Those ten soldiers who died today were brave men who lost their lives in a strange and unfriendly land. They may have become soldiers for the money, or national pride, or a desire to make the world safer. It does not matter. They deserve respect and mourning. They will be buried with honors but it will not comfort their families much. Does your concern for these soldiers and their deaths mean you will no longer use laughter icons when referring to the invasion of Georgia?
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There's no question that 1:1 French soldiers can be equally brave, foolhardy, noble, base, cowardly, effective, or bumbling as any other nation's troops. In WWII they often fought well - more often for the Nazis than for the Allies, but well, nevertheless. However, time and again, The French generals have shown themselves to be vain, pompous, short-sighted, and incompetent. Thus the French has developed a deserved reputation for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The death of any man is to be regretted, unless he is a criminal like Bin Laden. Those ten soldiers who died today were brave men who lost their lives in a strange and unfriendly land. They may have become soldiers for the money, or national pride, or a desire to make the world safer. It does not matter. They deserve respect and mourning. They will be buried with honors but it will not comfort their families much. Does your concern for these soldiers and their deaths mean you will no longer use laughter icons when referring to the invasion of Georgia?
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Oakman wrote:
you will no longer use laughter icons when referring to the invasion of Georgia?
I never have.
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Oakman wrote:
you will no longer use laughter icons when referring to the invasion of Georgia?
I never have.
oilFactotum wrote:
I never have.
Your lies have reached the level of Ilion. What a pathetic achievement. Why don't you just admit you were wrong to have done so, and suggest we both get on with our lives?
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Sarkozy and Kouchner are buffons. That said, I don't see why we should be consider responsible for the incoherences of the US foreign policy, making opposite statements when regarding Kosovo and South Ossetia. Next, why should we help Georgia, a country which deliberately chose to use force and shell civilians?
If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy! Fold with us! ¤ flickr
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Ka?l wrote:
Why should they be denied the right to self-determination?
They shouldn't. My point is that Putin used them as bait, but this doesn't make their wish less legitimate. However, as a side comment: is there anything more typically Caucasian, Middle Eastern and Balkan than "consider themselves as different people"? I mean in the western side of the world (the Americas) different people can get along very well. In the Balkans, Caucasus and Middle East they seem to be always on the verge of cutting their neighbors throat just because they have a different language, religion or ethnicity. I think the "Old World" of Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia and Middle East has a lot to learn from us in the "New World", from Canada to Argentina.
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Diego Moita wrote:
I think the "Old World" of Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia and Middle East has a lot to learn from us in the "New World", from Canada to Argentina.
Absolutely. I mean, look at how well you and I get along! :-D Got my 5, anyway.
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Sarkozy and Kouchner are buffons. That said, I don't see why we should be consider responsible for the incoherences of the US foreign policy, making opposite statements when regarding Kosovo and South Ossetia. Next, why should we help Georgia, a country which deliberately chose to use force and shell civilians?
If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy! Fold with us! ¤ flickr
Ka?l wrote:
why should we help Georgia, a country which deliberately chose to use force and shell civilians?
remember that. God only knows, no one would expect the French to help anyone.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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oilFactotum wrote:
I never have.
Your lies have reached the level of Ilion. What a pathetic achievement. Why don't you just admit you were wrong to have done so, and suggest we both get on with our lives?
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I haven't lied. I made my statement and patiently explained it to you twice. Your refusal to comprehend is all on you. Quite frankly it is you that seems to immulate Illion by your inability to support your position with anything other than childish name calling. Let me know when you are ready for an adult conversation.
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Diego Moita wrote:
I think the "Old World" of Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia and Middle East has a lot to learn from us in the "New World", from Canada to Argentina.
Absolutely. I mean, look at how well you and I get along! :-D Got my 5, anyway.
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There's a very large difference between a polite verbal disagreement, and wanting to kill someone for what his great great great great great great grandfather did to your great great great great great great grandfather. :cool:
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I haven't lied. I made my statement and patiently explained it to you twice. Your refusal to comprehend is all on you. Quite frankly it is you that seems to immulate Illion by your inability to support your position with anything other than childish name calling. Let me know when you are ready for an adult conversation.
oilFactotum wrote:
made my statement
Actually Diego made his statement about what he called an illegal and tragic invasion*. You were the one who decided it was worth a laughter icon.
oilFactotum wrote:
childish name calling. Let me know when you are ready for an adult conversation
Aren't you the guy who just called Mike a "tool?" Was that your idea of an adult conversation? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: * or something close to that.
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fat_boy wrote:
Putting a soldier in a tank in a foreign country
Not if you have given him orders to withdraw, as the Russians have been claiming they were doing for a week.
fat_boy wrote:
Like wise I am sure the behaviour of some troops in Iraq is not US policy.
If I remember correctly, the majority of Iraqis greeted the US and UK as liberators. (Yes, the situation changed because of the idiotic mistakes made by the US.) Have you seem lots of footage of Georgians greeting the Russians with open arms? Perhaps you could point us to a website showing Russian troops handing out candy bars to the kids - as opposed to running them down with their tanks.
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There's a very large difference between a polite verbal disagreement, and wanting to kill someone for what his great great great great great great grandfather did to your great great great great great great grandfather. :cool:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
his great great great great great great grandfather did to your great great great great great great grandfather
Was that Diego's great great great great great great grandfather??? Wait until I get my hands on that S.O.B.!
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oilFactotum wrote:
made my statement
Actually Diego made his statement about what he called an illegal and tragic invasion*. You were the one who decided it was worth a laughter icon.
oilFactotum wrote:
childish name calling. Let me know when you are ready for an adult conversation
Aren't you the guy who just called Mike a "tool?" Was that your idea of an adult conversation? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: * or something close to that.
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Oakman wrote:
Actually Diego
Actually this is exactly what he said(emphasis mine): "Isn't it fascinating to see neocons protesting against an illegal and unjustified invasion of a sovereign country?" Any time you want to have an adult converstion, let me know.
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Diego Moita wrote:
I think the "Old World" of Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia and Middle East has a lot to learn from us in the "New World", from Canada to Argentina.
Absolutely. I mean, look at how well you and I get along! :-D Got my 5, anyway.
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Oakman wrote:
Absolutely. I mean, look at how well you and I get along! [Big Grin]
The only people I hate today are Argentinians. :mad::mad: X| They kicked us out[^] of the men football finals in the Olympic games. Now, go Nigeria! Grind them!
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If you intentionally misunderstood me, dont. If not, ask me to explain.
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fat_boy wrote:
If you intentionally misunderstood me, dont.
What's the magic word?
fat_boy wrote:
If not, ask me to explain.
If you felt my comments weren't directly addressing yours, then by all means, elucidate. To recap what I said, in simpler terms: A. Troops ordered to leave the country do not drive around the center of towns crushing vehicles with their armored cars. B. In the early days of the Iraq invasion, the interactions between US & UK soldiers and the Iraqi populace were benign and often friendly.
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Oakman wrote:
Absolutely. I mean, look at how well you and I get along! [Big Grin]
The only people I hate today are Argentinians. :mad::mad: X| They kicked us out[^] of the men football finals in the Olympic games. Now, go Nigeria! Grind them!
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
They kicked us out
I have trouble understanding phrases like "a Brazil side who had Lucas Leiva and Thiago Neves sent off late on." :-O
Diego Moita wrote:
Now, go Nigeria! Grind them!
Well, even if they can't defeat Argentina, there's a good chance they will get their bank account numbers.
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Oakman wrote:
Actually Diego
Actually this is exactly what he said(emphasis mine): "Isn't it fascinating to see neocons protesting against an illegal and unjustified invasion of a sovereign country?" Any time you want to have an adult converstion, let me know.
oilFactotum wrote:
against an illegal and unjustified invasion of a sovereign country?"
Well, I suppose it's good that one of us has enough interest in this conversation to look up the quote. And you agree that you answered with a laughter icon, too, right?
oilFactotum wrote:
Any time you want to have an adult converstion, let me know.
So you can start calling me a "tool" and other such adult conversational ploys? Like what-- a "wrench?" a "pencil sharpener?" I'm not sure I'm ready for your brand of adult conversation. Maybe I should go talk to my great niece for practice. . . . "A bottle opener?"
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Your entire post reads like it was written by Adnan. You have got even the incoherence down pat.
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Actually, he have a point.
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Diego Moita wrote:
They kicked us out
I have trouble understanding phrases like "a Brazil side who had Lucas Leiva and Thiago Neves sent off late on." :-O
Diego Moita wrote:
Now, go Nigeria! Grind them!
Well, even if they can't defeat Argentina, there's a good chance they will get their bank account numbers.
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Oakman wrote:
Well, even if they can't defeat Argentina, there's a good chance they will get their bank account numbers.
Hey, a hard work Nigerian has to pay his way to the Olympics somehow.