Spontaeous Building Implosion
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Oakman wrote:
triggering the pancaked collapse.
Which did not occur. Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow to match the observed collapse time and could not have occured symetrically in an asymetrically reinforced building with asymetrical fires. Even without the unexplained molten metal and eye witness testimonies of multiple eplosions and a demolition countdown this would be a pathetically inadequate explanation. Albeit that they had next to no physical evidence to go on as the crime scene was cleared without forensic examination.
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow
You've obviously never seen me making pancakes... :-\
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BoneSoft wrote:
9.8 m/s^2 with momentum seems to go a long way towards explaining the collapse time.
You might have noticed that things fall with that accelaration in a vacuum, they tend to fall a teenie bit more slowly through concrete and steel. By the way I'm not assuming anything, merely commenting that this ridiculous report is such a blatant white-wash that it adds fuel to the conspiracy fires rather than putting them out with a genuine honest investigation which addresses the evidence and explain it without resorting to hand waving, magic, unexplained phenomena and new physics.
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
without resorting to hand waving, magic, unexplained phenomena and new physics.
Where did they resort to that? Give specific examples citing the page number of the report and the exact mistake that these engineers made, if you please. Otherwise I'll just have to write you off as one more crank with no knowledge of physics who hasn't even bothered to read the report. Bah, who am I kidding. I've already written you off, but feel free to prove me wrong.
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So in the US NIST has finally released its report on why World Trade Center building 7 collapsed into its own footprint in around 7 seconds on the afternoon of Sept 11 2001. Thermal expansion hey, who would have thunk it. Frankly who would believe it? :suss:
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Frankly who would believe it?
I'll buy it. Not because i have any particular knowledge of the subject (i don't), or because i have a good amount of faith in my Gov't (ditto)... I'll believe it because frankly there are more important things to worry about.
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Trollslayer wrote:
Shh - you aren't supposed to actually read the report, just jump to wild conclusions.
Of course. This is a site for software developers after all, where many believe you aren't supposed to actually read the documentation. :laugh:
led mike
And as such, I would imagine it might be frequented by management as well. So there's likely a mix of irrational incompetents here too. Hmm, I wonder what Iliot's position is... We know he's not much of a programmer, unless I'm thinking of another irrational incompetent.
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BoneSoft wrote:
9.8 m/s^2 with momentum seems to go a long way towards explaining the collapse time.
You might have noticed that things fall with that accelaration in a vacuum, they tend to fall a teenie bit more slowly through concrete and steel. By the way I'm not assuming anything, merely commenting that this ridiculous report is such a blatant white-wash that it adds fuel to the conspiracy fires rather than putting them out with a genuine honest investigation which addresses the evidence and explain it without resorting to hand waving, magic, unexplained phenomena and new physics.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Ah well, to each his own. Maybe someday I'll be watching a documentary thinking, "wow, Matthew was right." Or maybe the world will end on Dec 21 2012 and we'll never know.
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Shh - you aren't supposed to actually read the report, just jump to wild conclusions.
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Trollslayer wrote:
just jump to wild conclusions
:laugh::laugh::laugh: I don't need to. I remember watching the towers fall that day, and it was pretty obvious what was the cause.
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Trollslayer wrote:
Shh - you aren't supposed to actually read the report, just jump to wild conclusions.
Of course. This is a site for software developers after all, where many believe you aren't supposed to actually read the documentation. :laugh:
led mike
led mike wrote:
you aren't supposed to actually read the documentation
Documentation? What documentation? :laugh:
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Frankly who would believe it?
I'll buy it. Not because i have any particular knowledge of the subject (i don't), or because i have a good amount of faith in my Gov't (ditto)... I'll believe it because frankly there are more important things to worry about.
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Ah well, to each his own. Maybe someday I'll be watching a documentary thinking, "wow, Matthew was right." Or maybe the world will end on Dec 21 2012 and we'll never know.
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BoneSoft wrote:
world will end on Dec 21 2012 and we'll never know.
After that date, who would really care? I plan on living life to its fullest everyday upto that date, and including that day, and afterwards. Nothings going to happen.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow
You've obviously never seen me making pancakes... :-\
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:laugh: That's funny :) I was beginning to think those guys were proof there are yetis out there.
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Trollslayer wrote:
just jump to wild conclusions
:laugh::laugh::laugh: I don't need to. I remember watching the towers fall that day, and it was pretty obvious what was the cause.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Paul Conrad wrote:
and it was pretty obvious what was the cause
I couldn't tell for sure what you were agreeing to there.
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BoneSoft wrote:
world will end on Dec 21 2012 and we'll never know.
After that date, who would really care? I plan on living life to its fullest everyday upto that date, and including that day, and afterwards. Nothings going to happen.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Paul Conrad wrote:
Nothings going to happen
Of course not. It's a running joke in the office. Helps dodge some deadline discussions ;P
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Paul Conrad wrote:
and it was pretty obvious what was the cause
I couldn't tell for sure what you were agreeing to there.
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Caused by airplanes being rammed into the building and the burning jet fuel. Sorry, I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
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Paul Conrad wrote:
Nothings going to happen
Of course not. It's a running joke in the office. Helps dodge some deadline discussions ;P
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BoneSoft wrote:
Helps dodge some deadline discussions
Very true. Just tell folks the project will be completed around 23rd, or so. Oops, that's Christmas vacation time right after Dec. 21st :rolleyes:
BoneSoft wrote:
Of course not.
Yeah, a guy that works with my dad was pretty convinced that Planet X was going to wipe out the earth back in 2003. He invested hundreds of thousands of dollars building some sort of shelter thing up in Alaska, and it never happened. Guy is a PhD in Astrophysics and I figured he would have done his homework a bit better :suss:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Caused by airplanes being rammed into the building and the burning jet fuel. Sorry, I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Just checking, couldn't tell if you were voting for flying jihadis or the grassy knoll.
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Just checking, couldn't tell if you were voting for flying jihadis or the grassy knoll.
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Yeah, sorry about the vagueness of the one post. Coffee is still kicking in :-O
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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BoneSoft wrote:
Helps dodge some deadline discussions
Very true. Just tell folks the project will be completed around 23rd, or so. Oops, that's Christmas vacation time right after Dec. 21st :rolleyes:
BoneSoft wrote:
Of course not.
Yeah, a guy that works with my dad was pretty convinced that Planet X was going to wipe out the earth back in 2003. He invested hundreds of thousands of dollars building some sort of shelter thing up in Alaska, and it never happened. Guy is a PhD in Astrophysics and I figured he would have done his homework a bit better :suss:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Paul Conrad wrote:
He invested hundreds of thousands of dollars building some sort of shelter thing up in Alaska
Good God, as if it would have done him any good or he'd want to be the only one around in the aftermath... And he too can vote. :sigh: I ran accross some pretty whacky stuff on Planet X a couple of years ago. Those people put Scientology to shame on the fruitloop-o-meter. Something to the effect that Planet X orbits a near brown star that we can't see, and once every 4,000 or so years it swings over for a pass around our sun causing a pole shift. Even heard somebody claim that the magnetic drag of it's approach was the actual cause of global warming. Anyway, the people that live in the brown star's system apparently use the rougue planet to come visit Earth once in a while, which they supposedly populated by genitically engineering humans from monkeys and themselves. Good stuff.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
He invested hundreds of thousands of dollars building some sort of shelter thing up in Alaska
Good God, as if it would have done him any good or he'd want to be the only one around in the aftermath... And he too can vote. :sigh: I ran accross some pretty whacky stuff on Planet X a couple of years ago. Those people put Scientology to shame on the fruitloop-o-meter. Something to the effect that Planet X orbits a near brown star that we can't see, and once every 4,000 or so years it swings over for a pass around our sun causing a pole shift. Even heard somebody claim that the magnetic drag of it's approach was the actual cause of global warming. Anyway, the people that live in the brown star's system apparently use the rougue planet to come visit Earth once in a while, which they supposedly populated by genitically engineering humans from monkeys and themselves. Good stuff.
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BoneSoft wrote:
And he too can vote.
Very scary thought, too.
BoneSoft wrote:
Even heard somebody claim that the magnetic drag of it's approach was the actual cause of global warming.
Heard that too, and this guy even tries to claim when Planet X swings by, it stops the earth's rotation, and it was the cause of Noah's Flood in the Bible. His argument is that all the water on earth was still in motion and the earth's rotation slowed down fast enough for one mega tsunami event.
BoneSoft wrote:
the people that live in the brown star's system apparently use the rougue planet to come visit Earth once in a while
I see. When Planet X isn't making its trip, they come in UFOs to check on their little science experiment :rolleyes: Wonder if some of them post here on CP? :laugh:
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