Arrrgghhh - VB Programmers
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Shog9 wrote:
our pockets certainly need protecting
Of course they do, after all when the ink leaks out, you don't want the stain on your clothes for your mother to have to try to get it out.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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ME: Dude, why did you register a code-behind page that doesn't exist? APU: Uh... what? ME: Well, you put the "codebehind" attribute in the page directive and pointed it to a file that doesn't exist? APU: So? ME: It causes a compilation error. APU: A what? ME: A compilation error - and it's sloppy coding! APU: So what - it runs just fine... ME: But... oh never mind, I'll fix it.
"Quality Software since 1983!"
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Want to fly model aircraft? Read my beginner site to find out how!Jasmine2501 wrote:
and it's sloppy coding!
Maybe the person you were talking to was having trouble understanding your sloppy English.
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
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73Zeppelin wrote:
You seem to know an awful lot about VB there, chief....
You bet. After I got out of gaming I ended up contracting to do business software, because - as Willy Horton said - that's where the money was. Contractors are hired guns. As far as I was concerned, pay me enough and I'll write your app in PowerBuilder or in Informix-4GL. (As a matter of fact, I did.) I really don't give a damn about the language and figure that anyone who spends a lot of time obsessing over it is either working in Assembly or is a bit of a poseur. When .NET came along it was either VB or C#. Basically, they're plug in replacements for each other, so I transitioned to both. I admit - when I do my own stuff these days, I stick to C#. But it's no biggie.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
After I got out of gaming
You were involved with the gaming industry?
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
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Oakman wrote:
After I got out of gaming
You were involved with the gaming industry?
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
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Jasmine2501 wrote:
and it's sloppy coding!
Maybe the person you were talking to was having trouble understanding your sloppy English.
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
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MarkBrock wrote:
You were involved with the gaming industry
Back in the days when things were much more text-based, yep.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Woah! cool! I've got a lot of respect for game programmers.
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
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Jasmine2501 wrote:
No, it's about the attitude that VB fosters.
Bullshit. I have known VB programmers - Rocky Lhotka for example - who are superb programmers. Deborah Kurata - who was doing full-fledged objects with VB6 - these guys write tight, maintainable, elegant code and to claim that because they do it in VB rather than the only language you are comfortable in, it somehow is less impressive than it would be if you did it, demonstrates your myopia and arrogance, not their lack of skill. I'm pretty fluent in both C# and VB.Net and my standards don't change depending on which language I program in. I find the concept ludicrous.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Jasmine2501: No, it's about the attitude that VB fosters. DryRot: bullsh*t. I have known VB programmers ... who are superb programmers.
You're such an ass, DryRot; you love to misrepresent others. Would you cease to exist if you ever behaved honestly?
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Jasmine2501 wrote:
I have been doing this stuff for 25 years
Got me beat. I started in '84
Jasmine2501 wrote:
I'm just frustrated with the guys I'm working with right now.
My last contract job, I worked with a C# team that wrote all their code as if their web app and their SQL 2000 were running locally on each user's desktop. While I was there, they discovered MS's AJAX and were positive it totally eliminated any need for writing javascript. I feel your pain.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
positive it totally eliminated any need for writing javascript
Dam!
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Shog9 wrote:
other than to say you can expect that before too long we'll be referring to C# programmers in the same sort of terms we previously reserved for those of the VB persuasion.
Yeah I'm not happy about the dumbing-down of tools - but there is an up side to it... things get done faster. I wonder how long it will be before we're in a "Space Cowboys" situation, where there's only a few people left in the world who really know how the system works, and when the base stuff starts failing, we'll be hosed. I noticed the other day that my Vista machine seems to be still starting up from a DOS shell??? Have we really not thought of a better way to bootstrap an OS since 1981? I know Apple has solved this issue...
"Quality Software since 1983!"
See my personal web site for photos, info, and a really weird blog
Want to fly model aircraft? Read my beginner site to find out how!Jasmine2501 wrote:
I noticed the other day that my Vista machine seems to be still starting up from a DOS shell
Not BIOS? That was one of the first things I noticed about Vista: the GUI from startup. You can't blame the OS until it starts.
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Woah! cool! I've got a lot of respect for game programmers.
Mark Brock "We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft." -- Chris Metzen Click here to view my blog
MarkBrock wrote:
I've got a lot of respect for game programmers.
Don't start thinking I worked for ID. That kind of graphics-intensive first person shooter wasn't what we were set up to do. Think Zork - only not as successful. But it was a fun eight year ride and we sold out at a nice profit.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface