Do you believe in God? [modified]

soap brain

BoneSoft wrote:

Einstein, Darwin

Sorry, but neither of these two believed in God. Einstein: "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Darwin: "I think that generally (and more and more as I grow older), but not always, that an Agnostic would be a more correct description of my state of mind." Of course, Isaac Newton was a devout theist, and he was pretty awesome.

Vikram A Punathambekar

Never heard of polytheism?

Cheers, Vıkram.

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Oakman

Their beliefs are not quites as black and white as you seem to think. Einstein rejected a belief in a personal God - one that interfered with human events. He said he believed in Spinoza's God - sometimes called the primal force or Creator. The word Agnostic means one who holds the theory that God is unknown or unknowable. One of the errors of the belief system commonly called Atheism is that they are some how allied with Agnostics - most of whom reject the Atheist position equally with the Methodist. Nothing in the Agnostic point of view denies the existence of God, only the hope of our knowing Him. The concept of God as the original creator of the universe has wide currency. If you know who Heinz Pagels was (and if you don't you should) you might ponder that this great scientist, known as a critic of mystiscism, said, "This unthinkable void converts itself into the plenum of existence - a necessary consequence of physical laws. Where are these laws written into that void? What "tells" the void that it is pregnant with a possible universe? It would seem that even the void is subject to law, a logic that exists prior to space and time." Of course nothing in the belief in Spinoza's God demands an acceptance of the man-made religious constructs so beloved by Ilion and others. Just an awareness that we are not the Lords of Creation we might sometimes fancy ourselves to be.

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Harvey Saayman wrote:

You need to wake up and smell the daisy's! I've only been exposed to "the real world" for the last two years... and i was shocked to find out how many atheists there are around me, it actually makes me sick... even some of my friends "believe in themselves", if u ask me they believe in "science", which alot of it is a f***ing religion in itself(the big bang and the big squish and the big spin and all that)! Half the crap they teach in school level science is given as fact, but it cant be proven in front of you like gravity and electricity can be proven and shown... Things like the age of the earth... IMO science is the religion of atheists, people to blind to see whats right in front of their faces! We didnt just happen, there has to be a creator behind it all...

I did. I have Faith (I'm something of an evangelist, in fact!). However, I also know enough about science (cosmology and physicals in particular) and experimental methods to be able to evaluate when a theory is likely to represent what really happened, and when it's not. From what I can see, the Big Bang and evolution are definitely in the former category. Why on earth should I find that at all at odds with my Faith when the beauty revealed by these theories is simply a deeper manifestation of the work of God?

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