Tableless HTML Design?? [modified]
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Hi, Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS? Could someone point me in the right direction. Regards, Manu
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modified on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:42 AM
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Hi, Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS? Could someone point me in the right direction. Regards, Manu
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
modified on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:42 AM
Blumen wrote:
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Hi, Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS? Could someone point me in the right direction. Regards, Manu
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
modified on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:42 AM
Blumen wrote:
Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS?
Almost. It rather means that you use CSS to style the html elements that are appropriate for what you want to do. That element could even be a table, if you actually want to display a table on the page. Using tables to do layout once revolutionised the web design. However, that was about fifteen years ago, and the technology has moved on since then. Here is a good example: css Zen Garden: The Beauty in CSS Design[^] I have found these useful for understanding how CSS works: Selectutorial[^] Floatutorial[^]
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Blumen wrote:
Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS?
Almost. It rather means that you use CSS to style the html elements that are appropriate for what you want to do. That element could even be a table, if you actually want to display a table on the page. Using tables to do layout once revolutionised the web design. However, that was about fifteen years ago, and the technology has moved on since then. Here is a good example: css Zen Garden: The Beauty in CSS Design[^] I have found these useful for understanding how CSS works: Selectutorial[^] Floatutorial[^]
Despite everything, the person most likely to be fooling you next is yourself.
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Hi, Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS? Could someone point me in the right direction. Regards, Manu
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
modified on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:42 AM
Adding to what Guffa said, Pages designed using tables are slow to render than the one developed using DIVs and CSS. Many websites will have a main table which contains all the contents of that page. This is slow because browser can render the content only after getting the closing node which it gets at the end of page. Use DIVs and CSS for design doesn't mean that you have to avoid tables completly. Tables should be used for what it is created for. If you are using tables for designing, use small tables instead of wrapping everything in a single table. This[^] site has good beginer level tutorials.
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Adding to what Guffa said, Pages designed using tables are slow to render than the one developed using DIVs and CSS. Many websites will have a main table which contains all the contents of that page. This is slow because browser can render the content only after getting the closing node which it gets at the end of page. Use DIVs and CSS for design doesn't mean that you have to avoid tables completly. Tables should be used for what it is created for. If you are using tables for designing, use small tables instead of wrapping everything in a single table. This[^] site has good beginer level tutorials.
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Hi, Does tableless html design means using DIVs with the help of CSS? Could someone point me in the right direction. Regards, Manu
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
modified on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:42 AM
In addition to what the others have said, I've personally found going table-less involves a lot of pain, suffering and cursing at various browsers. I've attempted it many times and went back to tables, for sanity's sake. The new specs hold promise, but we'll have to see how each browser handles them. Just my 2 cents.
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In addition to what the others have said, I've personally found going table-less involves a lot of pain, suffering and cursing at various browsers. I've attempted it many times and went back to tables, for sanity's sake. The new specs hold promise, but we'll have to see how each browser handles them. Just my 2 cents.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! A post a day, keeps the white coats away!
Steve Echols wrote:
I've personally found going table-less involves a lot of pain, suffering
Exactly. I tried to CSS based design but found that it was very difficult. Most of the websites still use table based design. I checked Microsoft home page using firebug, they have DIV based design.
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
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Steve Echols wrote:
I've personally found going table-less involves a lot of pain, suffering
Exactly. I tried to CSS based design but found that it was very difficult. Most of the websites still use table based design. I checked Microsoft home page using firebug, they have DIV based design.
“The thing for you is a burial permit. You have only to speak and I will see that you get it.”
Yeah, it's frustrating because I know it can be done, but it just seems like hypocrisy from the people saying you shouldn't use tables, and suggest instead that you use mind bending css hacks to accomplish the same thing. I choose the route that makes sense to me (grids) and what I know works, for right or wrong, and wait for the w3c get their act together (like that'll ever happen). :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! A post a day, keeps the white coats away!
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Yeah, it's frustrating because I know it can be done, but it just seems like hypocrisy from the people saying you shouldn't use tables, and suggest instead that you use mind bending css hacks to accomplish the same thing. I choose the route that makes sense to me (grids) and what I know works, for right or wrong, and wait for the w3c get their act together (like that'll ever happen). :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! A post a day, keeps the white coats away!
