RIAA sue ISPs for not Censoring the Web
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First they sued ISP hosting illegal content. (Which is fine by me.) Then they sued those hyperlinking to illegal content(DeCCS). Then they sue those linking to site linking the sites linking to content. They are also suing the makers of file swapping programs. (What is next outlawing FTP?). Now they are suing AT&T, Sprint and UUNET for allowing illegal content to travel over the internet. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954176.html?tag=fd\_top http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26015.html The RIAA want the right to censor the internet. Am I the only one scared by this?
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First they sued ISP hosting illegal content. (Which is fine by me.) Then they sued those hyperlinking to illegal content(DeCCS). Then they sue those linking to site linking the sites linking to content. They are also suing the makers of file swapping programs. (What is next outlawing FTP?). Now they are suing AT&T, Sprint and UUNET for allowing illegal content to travel over the internet. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954176.html?tag=fd\_top http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26015.html The RIAA want the right to censor the internet. Am I the only one scared by this?
Raskolnikov wrote: (What is next outlawing FTP?). I wonder if they will start suing hackers who break into your system and steal stuff. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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First they sued ISP hosting illegal content. (Which is fine by me.) Then they sued those hyperlinking to illegal content(DeCCS). Then they sue those linking to site linking the sites linking to content. They are also suing the makers of file swapping programs. (What is next outlawing FTP?). Now they are suing AT&T, Sprint and UUNET for allowing illegal content to travel over the internet. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954176.html?tag=fd\_top http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26015.html The RIAA want the right to censor the internet. Am I the only one scared by this?
I'm scared because US lawmakers are clueless enough to give RIAA the power they want. :wtf: --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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Raskolnikov wrote: (What is next outlawing FTP?). I wonder if they will start suing hackers who break into your system and steal stuff. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
I don't mind hacker who cause damage getting sued or even going to jail. I think that they should be able to sue an ISP that doesn't imediately pull an infrigning web site. But suing those providinc the infrastructure is going a little too far. I could care less about a Chinease web site hosting MP3s, but this could set a terrible precedent. Maybe next time a company will want the ISPs to block a web site that criticized its products or business practices, perhapse claiming that the site is libelous or infringes on its trademarks. I have already read of dozens of cases in which individuals where sued for libel after posting on a forum. It doesn't even matter whether the company has a case or not. Usually they start of fighting, but eventually as their legal bills mount they are forced to settle because they simply can't affort to keep fighting. I am sure Microsoft knows of a few web sites that it would like disapeared. I don't know about you, but I like the internet the way it is, free and uncensored.
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I'm scared because US lawmakers are clueless enough to give RIAA the power they want. :wtf: --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
I think that is a world wide phenomenon now though not just with law makers ... but many decision makers. Even in an abstract sense now they do not understand the implications of the techology that is arriving. :wtf: Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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First they sued ISP hosting illegal content. (Which is fine by me.) Then they sued those hyperlinking to illegal content(DeCCS). Then they sue those linking to site linking the sites linking to content. They are also suing the makers of file swapping programs. (What is next outlawing FTP?). Now they are suing AT&T, Sprint and UUNET for allowing illegal content to travel over the internet. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954176.html?tag=fd\_top http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26015.html The RIAA want the right to censor the internet. Am I the only one scared by this?
Why not just let the RIAA, Disney etc. run the US government. Oops, too late.......... X| Oh - and will they sue foreign ISP as well ? Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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I don't mind hacker who cause damage getting sued or even going to jail. I think that they should be able to sue an ISP that doesn't imediately pull an infrigning web site. But suing those providinc the infrastructure is going a little too far. I could care less about a Chinease web site hosting MP3s, but this could set a terrible precedent. Maybe next time a company will want the ISPs to block a web site that criticized its products or business practices, perhapse claiming that the site is libelous or infringes on its trademarks. I have already read of dozens of cases in which individuals where sued for libel after posting on a forum. It doesn't even matter whether the company has a case or not. Usually they start of fighting, but eventually as their legal bills mount they are forced to settle because they simply can't affort to keep fighting. I am sure Microsoft knows of a few web sites that it would like disapeared. I don't know about you, but I like the internet the way it is, free and uncensored.
Isn't there something in the US constitution about free speech...... Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Isn't there something in the US constitution about free speech...... Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Isn't there something in the US constitution about free speech...... What, that old thing? The Liberal Democrats have all but emasculated it by now; the remnants are being dismantled by the Judiciary... Keep in touch - when rights are well and truly dead in this country, we'll hold a wake (if we're allowed to) - I'll see to it you get an invitation. "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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First they sued ISP hosting illegal content. (Which is fine by me.) Then they sued those hyperlinking to illegal content(DeCCS). Then they sue those linking to site linking the sites linking to content. They are also suing the makers of file swapping programs. (What is next outlawing FTP?). Now they are suing AT&T, Sprint and UUNET for allowing illegal content to travel over the internet. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954176.html?tag=fd\_top http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26015.html The RIAA want the right to censor the internet. Am I the only one scared by this?
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I think that is a world wide phenomenon now though not just with law makers ... but many decision makers. Even in an abstract sense now they do not understand the implications of the techology that is arriving. :wtf: Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin^Davies wrote: they do not understand the implications of the techology that is arriving. I agree with you 100%. I have a pessimistic/optimistic take on it, however. The only way they'll ever figure it out (good) is by screwing it up (bad) and realizing what a horrible thing they have done. Failure is the best teacher, after all - it's just that her lessons are so unpleasant to learn. -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
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Bruce Duncan wrote: Though I think Hilary Rosen's head on the body of a tick would have been far more appropriate. It's a better metaphor, I must admit / But flies do make a living on piles of shit ;) -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
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Why not just let the RIAA, Disney etc. run the US government. Oops, too late.......... X| Oh - and will they sue foreign ISP as well ? Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Oh - and will they sue foreign ISP as well ? It will probably escalate to that stupidity, at some point :( But keep in mind that in no way means that they will win the suit. And even if they do, I'd like to see them try and enfore it :laugh: But I'm sure there will be entirely different takes on that situation when it's a US entity suing a non-US entity for their web content. I never heard too much anti-French-Govt sentiment when they told E-Bay to censor it's content (Perhaps it existed outside the US as well, but I just didn't hear about it)... I hope the roar will be much, much louder the next go-round. The internet is not a place for nation-states to play politics. -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
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Isn't there something in the US constitution about free speech...... Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Isn't there something in the US constitution about free speech...... Of course, there are limits to everything. I'm curious, does the company you work for give away it's IP? Do you get paid? I thought so.
Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap
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Bruce Duncan wrote: Though I think Hilary Rosen's head on the body of a tick would have been far more appropriate. It's a better metaphor, I must admit / But flies do make a living on piles of shit ;) -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
Actually I rather like yours too :-)
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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