Cry-sler
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It looks exactly the same as a bunch of uneducated, semiskilled grunts banding together to close a plant because the company won't pay them 10 times their worth. Only when a union does it, the papers call it solidarity; when the company does it, it's unfair labor practice.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
It looks exactly the same as a bunch of uneducated, semiskilled grunts banding together to close a plant because the company won't pay them 10 times their worth.
I assume you're referring to unions there.....what dealings have you ever had with them?
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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Quite, it's predicated on a global decline in demand for oil caused by the biggest global slowdown since, well, at least '82 if not '74 if not '30. Once the global economy recovers, which it inevitably will, demand will go back up. But at these prices there's no incentive for oil producers to invest in already creaking infrastructure, so in all likelyhood we'll see a structural decline in supply over the next year or two.
Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore
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What is not mentioned is that Chryslers parent company and majority owner, Cerebus Capital Management, does have significant access to funds that they have chosen not to provide to Chrysler. If the owners don't think they are worth saving, why should taxpayers do it? It is also noteworthy that Cerebus owns 51% of GMAC, general motors finance unit. Both Chrysler and GM are complaining that they are suffering because their would-be customers can't get credit. Why isn't Cerebus helping the lending companies it owns lend so the auto manufacturing companies they own can sell cars? Something really stinks here, and all the garbage about union wages is just a smoke screen for a rip-off by Cerebus, who, having mismanaged Chrysler into the present state, are unwilling to pay their fair share of the consequences. Cerebus is also using GMAC to squeeze GM (self -mismanaged) to further mask their complicity in this mess. Note that Ford, the only one of the three with no involvement by Cerebus, is comparatively healthy and will survive without help if it's suppliers are not brought down by Chrysler or GM failures.
modified on Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:58 PM
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Roger Wright wrote:
It looks exactly the same as a bunch of uneducated, semiskilled grunts banding together to close a plant because the company won't pay them 10 times their worth.
I assume you're referring to unions there.....what dealings have you ever had with them?
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
RichardGrimmer wrote:
what dealings have you ever had with them?
I've been a Teamster, worked in union shops, and had to deal with union subcontractors. I see very little justification for the continued existence of any of them.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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RichardGrimmer wrote:
what dealings have you ever had with them?
I've been a Teamster, worked in union shops, and had to deal with union subcontractors. I see very little justification for the continued existence of any of them.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
You'll have to forgive my ignorance of the colonies, but what's a Teamster?
Roger Wright wrote:
I see very little justification for the continued existence of any of them.
Hmmm....that's an interesting opinion - particularly in these "volatile economic times"....do you work or manage? (if you forgive the crass division there lol!)....I tend to find in my experience that the "unskilled grunts" attitute is generally prevalent amongst the more, how can I say it...."white collar" amongst us....
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.