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Now that BHO has bollocks'd the swearing in of the most important job in the world...

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  • D Dalek Dave

    How many more mistakes will he make? He could not even swear in using the correct words! (I did say I would cover him like a bitch!)

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    Stan Shannon
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    It'll probably give the democrats in congress a good excuse to impeach Roberts.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      How many more mistakes will he make? He could not even swear in using the correct words! (I did say I would cover him like a bitch!)

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      Gary Kirkham
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      Stuff happens...give him a pass. Of course, if Bush would have had the same problem (regardless of who screwed up), the press would have rode him into the sunset.

      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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      • O Oakman

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        I did say I would cover him like a bitch!)

        But you ought to get your facts straight, first. The oath that he signs immediately after leaving the podium is the legal act. Just like the marriage ceremony, it's what you sign that's important; not what you say. Edit/ I stand corrected. According to Professor Lawrence Tribe - who taught Constitutional Law to both Chief Justice Roberts and to President Obama, retaking the oath was probably a good idea. /Edit

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        modified on Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:01 PM

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        BoneSoft
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        Oakman wrote:

        Just like the marriage ceremony, it's what you sign that's important; not what you say.

        And presidential campaigns.


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        • D Dalek Dave

          How many more mistakes will he make? He could not even swear in using the correct words! (I did say I would cover him like a bitch!)

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          BoneSoft
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          I barely noticed that part. It was the "and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" that threw me. I've heard of lying under oath, what happens when you lie during oath?


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          • D Dalek Dave

            How many more mistakes will he make? He could not even swear in using the correct words! (I did say I would cover him like a bitch!)

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            soap brain
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            The guy he was repeating after couldn't even talk properly.

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            • B BoneSoft

              I barely noticed that part. It was the "and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" that threw me. I've heard of lying under oath, what happens when you lie during oath?


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              soap brain
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              You're turning into Stan. Stop it.

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              • L Lost User

                Nearly as bad as Charlie getting his name wrong at 'The Wedding'

                ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                Diana got it wrong.

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                • B BoneSoft

                  Oakman wrote:

                  Just like the marriage ceremony, it's what you sign that's important; not what you say.

                  And presidential campaigns.


                  Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                  Oakman
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                  BoneSoft wrote:

                  And presidential campaigns

                  And extended warantees

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  • G Gary Kirkham

                    Stuff happens...give him a pass. Of course, if Bush would have had the same problem (regardless of who screwed up), the press would have rode him into the sunset.

                    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                    Oakman
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                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                    Of course, if Bush would have had the same problem (regardless of who screwed up), the press would have rode him into the sunset.

                    Not on the occasion of his first inaugural. It seems to have been forgotten by both the left and the right that at one point Bush had a 90% approval rating and was praised by the NY Times and the Washington Post.

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                    • B BoneSoft

                      I barely noticed that part. It was the "and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" that threw me. I've heard of lying under oath, what happens when you lie during oath?


                      Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                      Oakman
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                      BoneSoft wrote:

                      I've heard of lying under oath, what happens when you lie during oath

                      The President most often cited as violating the Constitution was Lincoln. Jefferson admitted to exercising power that he was not giving by the Constitution, and it is hard for me to believe that Bush's wiretapping of American citizens was not extra- if not un- constitutional. In every case the defense made is "It was absolutly necessary," which has often sounded to me like "It was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it." It is possible that Obama may continue the tradition of the unary presidency that Bush and Cheney embraced, but while I know you have received a message from God regarding Obama's citizenship, it would appear that most of the rest of us didn't get the memo.

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                      • O Oakman

                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                        Of course, if Bush would have had the same problem (regardless of who screwed up), the press would have rode him into the sunset.

                        Not on the occasion of his first inaugural. It seems to have been forgotten by both the left and the right that at one point Bush had a 90% approval rating and was praised by the NY Times and the Washington Post.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

                        modified on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:36 AM

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                        I don't know, later approval ratings are one thing, but I also remember him being despised by those who thought he "stole" the election. But yeah, by the second inauguration whatever good will he may have had, had long since disappeared.

                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                        • G Gary Kirkham

                          I don't know, later approval ratings are one thing, but I also remember him being despised by those who thought he "stole" the election. But yeah, by the second inauguration whatever good will he may have had, had long since disappeared.

                          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                          Oakman
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                          Gary Kirkham wrote:

                          I also remember him being despised by those who thought he "stole" the election.

                          You're right, Gary. There definitely were Democrats acting like children back then. To be accurate I was thinking of Bush's approval rating (90%) right after 9/11. I still cannot believe that he allowed the neocons to divert him from Afghanistan and Bin Laden. Had he remained on track, I suspect we'd have a Republican in the Whitehouse today. (And a much gentler economic downturn.) Instead Cheney and Rumsfeld conned him into a war we had no right nor reason to wage (except some "intelligence" that was anything but, even though it served their agenda) at the cost of allowing the mastermind of 9/11 to escape, and a military occupation of a country that we'd been told would hail us as liberators.

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                          • S soap brain

                            You're turning into Stan. Stop it.

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                            BoneSoft
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                            I'm sorry, apparently my tin foil beanie paid off. Forgive me for wanting the Constitution upheld. No wait, I shouldn't have to apologize for that.


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                            • O Oakman

                              BoneSoft wrote:

                              I've heard of lying under oath, what happens when you lie during oath

                              The President most often cited as violating the Constitution was Lincoln. Jefferson admitted to exercising power that he was not giving by the Constitution, and it is hard for me to believe that Bush's wiretapping of American citizens was not extra- if not un- constitutional. In every case the defense made is "It was absolutly necessary," which has often sounded to me like "It was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it." It is possible that Obama may continue the tradition of the unary presidency that Bush and Cheney embraced, but while I know you have received a message from God regarding Obama's citizenship, it would appear that most of the rest of us didn't get the memo.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              BoneSoft
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                              And they should have all been held accountable for that. I don't know how Lincoln got away with throwing dissenting journalists in jail. And if he had just taken office, I'd be complaining about him instead.

                              Oakman wrote:

                              while I know you have received a message from God regarding Obama's citizenship, it would appear that most of the rest of us didn't get the memo.

                              That's the point, nobody got the memo. The memo has been sealed. But God wasn't the one who sealed his records. God wasn't one of his two half sisters who cited two different hospitals he was born at neither of which existed in 61. God wasn't his grandmother who said she was present at his birth in Kenya. God wasn't the one who let him into Afghanistan at a time when noone could with a US passport. God wasn't the one who got him into school in Indonesian when you had to be a citizen there to do so. I don't question his citizenship, I question the class of his citizenship, as the evidence and the Constitution pretty much require. And as multiple Supreme Court cases suggest, thankfully I'm not alone. Too bad they'll likely be swept aside without consideration. But make no mistake, this isn't sour grapes as many here would like to dismissively suggest, I want the Constitution and the law, without them we have nothing. After crying for 8 years about Bush stealing elections, I guess the left felt oblidged to go a big step further in retaliation. I have no doubt that nothing will be done about it, since nobody seems to care about the Constitution any more. And because of that, maybe the majority of voters will get what they deserve, it's just too bad the rest of us will be equally punished. Maybe the unwarranted ridiculous optimism surrounding him won't have been in vain, I certainly hope that's the case. But it won't just be PC when he's called the first African American president. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, and that would only take him ponying up a couple of easily attainable documents that he should have been required to produce in the first place. If he would only do that, then I'd have to sit back and take his policies as legitimate.


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                                I'm sorry, apparently my tin foil beanie paid off. Forgive me for wanting the Constitution upheld. No wait, I shouldn't have to apologize for that.


                                Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                oilFactotum
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                                BoneSoft wrote:

                                I shouldn't have to apologize for that.

                                No, you shouldn't. But I am curious where your concern for the constitition has been for the last 8 year.

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                                  BoneSoft wrote:

                                  I shouldn't have to apologize for that.

                                  No, you shouldn't. But I am curious where your concern for the constitition has been for the last 8 year.

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                                  BoneSoft
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                                  It's always been there. In what ways do you see that it was violated? Other than Cheney's view of his job description, which I'm aware of.


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                                    It's always been there. In what ways do you see that it was violated? Other than Cheney's view of his job description, which I'm aware of.


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                                    oilFactotum
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                                    Illegal domestic surveillance program and torture to name 2 violations.

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                                    • B BoneSoft

                                      I'm sorry, apparently my tin foil beanie paid off. Forgive me for wanting the Constitution upheld. No wait, I shouldn't have to apologize for that.


                                      Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                      BoneSoft wrote:

                                      I'm sorry, apparently my tin foil beanie paid off.

                                      Most of us have looked at the same evidence that Adnan did and we decided that Bush didn't order 9/11. Now we have looked at the same evidence you have, and we decided that it doesn't prove that Obama's birth record is a forgery.

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                                        And they should have all been held accountable for that. I don't know how Lincoln got away with throwing dissenting journalists in jail. And if he had just taken office, I'd be complaining about him instead.

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        while I know you have received a message from God regarding Obama's citizenship, it would appear that most of the rest of us didn't get the memo.

                                        That's the point, nobody got the memo. The memo has been sealed. But God wasn't the one who sealed his records. God wasn't one of his two half sisters who cited two different hospitals he was born at neither of which existed in 61. God wasn't his grandmother who said she was present at his birth in Kenya. God wasn't the one who let him into Afghanistan at a time when noone could with a US passport. God wasn't the one who got him into school in Indonesian when you had to be a citizen there to do so. I don't question his citizenship, I question the class of his citizenship, as the evidence and the Constitution pretty much require. And as multiple Supreme Court cases suggest, thankfully I'm not alone. Too bad they'll likely be swept aside without consideration. But make no mistake, this isn't sour grapes as many here would like to dismissively suggest, I want the Constitution and the law, without them we have nothing. After crying for 8 years about Bush stealing elections, I guess the left felt oblidged to go a big step further in retaliation. I have no doubt that nothing will be done about it, since nobody seems to care about the Constitution any more. And because of that, maybe the majority of voters will get what they deserve, it's just too bad the rest of us will be equally punished. Maybe the unwarranted ridiculous optimism surrounding him won't have been in vain, I certainly hope that's the case. But it won't just be PC when he's called the first African American president. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, and that would only take him ponying up a couple of easily attainable documents that he should have been required to produce in the first place. If he would only do that, then I'd have to sit back and take his policies as legitimate.


                                        Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                        Oakman
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                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        Maybe the unwarranted ridiculous optimism surrounding him won't have been in vain

                                        Depends on what you mean, "in vain." There is no chance that he can wave a magic wand and get us out of the mess we have put ourselves into. And anyone who thinks that he can or will will have to discover all over again that there is no Santa Claus. On the other hand, it would seem to me that he stands a decent chance of having the intelligence and wisdom to ameliorate the effects of this crisis. The biggest threat to this, it seems to me comes from Pelosi and Reid. And the biggest advantage he will have in any struggle with them is his inordinate popularity - in which they do not share.

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                                        • B BoneSoft

                                          And they should have all been held accountable for that. I don't know how Lincoln got away with throwing dissenting journalists in jail. And if he had just taken office, I'd be complaining about him instead.

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          while I know you have received a message from God regarding Obama's citizenship, it would appear that most of the rest of us didn't get the memo.

                                          That's the point, nobody got the memo. The memo has been sealed. But God wasn't the one who sealed his records. God wasn't one of his two half sisters who cited two different hospitals he was born at neither of which existed in 61. God wasn't his grandmother who said she was present at his birth in Kenya. God wasn't the one who let him into Afghanistan at a time when noone could with a US passport. God wasn't the one who got him into school in Indonesian when you had to be a citizen there to do so. I don't question his citizenship, I question the class of his citizenship, as the evidence and the Constitution pretty much require. And as multiple Supreme Court cases suggest, thankfully I'm not alone. Too bad they'll likely be swept aside without consideration. But make no mistake, this isn't sour grapes as many here would like to dismissively suggest, I want the Constitution and the law, without them we have nothing. After crying for 8 years about Bush stealing elections, I guess the left felt oblidged to go a big step further in retaliation. I have no doubt that nothing will be done about it, since nobody seems to care about the Constitution any more. And because of that, maybe the majority of voters will get what they deserve, it's just too bad the rest of us will be equally punished. Maybe the unwarranted ridiculous optimism surrounding him won't have been in vain, I certainly hope that's the case. But it won't just be PC when he's called the first African American president. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, and that would only take him ponying up a couple of easily attainable documents that he should have been required to produce in the first place. If he would only do that, then I'd have to sit back and take his policies as legitimate.


                                          Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                          BoneSoft wrote:

                                          I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, and that would only take him ponying up a couple of easily attainable documents that he should have been required to produce in the first place. If he would only do that, then I'd have to sit back and take his policies as legitimate.

                                          If this isn't enough, then it is likely that you really don't wish to accept the truth[^]

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