You guys are abusing the soapbox

Brady Kelly

Rob Graham wrote:

attempts to demean

Ilion can demean? :confused:

Oakman

Rob Graham wrote:

When vigilantism is enabled and encouraged

It becomes the Justice League of America. Just call me J'onn J'onzz. More seriously. Would you feel happier if the deletions were done by moderators? That would create a little police force instead of vigilantes. I'm not sure I am as comfortable with that as I am the democratic method that Chris has instituted.

Rob Graham wrote:

there are few of us that are not grateful for the silencing

It's my impression that most of the regs are at least somewhat more respectful of each other these days, both when Troy gives up and goes away for awhile or when he is deleted so thoroughly. For what it is worth, I note that the vigilantes seem to show quite a bit of forbearance. The only three (to my knowledge) who have been deleted are Ilion, Dato, and Adnan (and his last post wasn't deleted.) Stan, for instance, is a pain in the ass but he is definitely a member of the forum and will debate you till the cows come home. He is not deleted, although often one-voted. I suppose the same could be said of me - hmmmm.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Dalek Dave

TRY, he fails because he is a slugs testicle.

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

realJSOP

If I (of all people) can manage to ignore him, so can the rest of you.

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

realJSOP

If anyone is aware of why the soapbox exists, it's me - because I'm the sole reason that it does exist (and that's a verifiable claim). The soapbox is here to keep people like Ilion out of the lounge (or at least to give him a place to post). I think everyone here needs to "up" their game a bit.

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

Dalek Dave

Are you feeling well? It is unlike you to vent such opinions as this. I am at a loss for words. Perhaps if you could convince him to stop being a prat the community would stop downvoting him, but I doubt even you at your most 'persuasive' could do that.

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

Dalek Dave

Very tempting to one vote that for fun, but I shall resist!

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

realJSOP

I recognized the futility in that approach long ago (and thus ignore his messages) - a mental leap that it looks like everyone else here refuses to make.

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

Oakman

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

If I (of all people) can manage to ignore him, so can the rest of you.

But you have an advantage over us. We all have to ignore you

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

modified on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 4:11 PM

Dalek Dave

YANA! You Are Not Alone. I do not respond to him either, (Mostly), I agree there are others that offer contentious points that are controversial/obnoxious, but they at least offer an argument, not merely a tirade of crap abuse. (eg *liar* *fool* *stupid* and others of that ilk).

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

Oakman

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

because I'm the sole reason that it does exist (and that's a verifiable claim).

Not something I'd necessarily boast about, but I'm perfectly willing to believe you. Nonetheless just as Chris created the Soapbox for you, he created the ability to delete messages for the rest of us. Just as the great Hamster-Master expects us to confine our more rowdy language to the Soapbox, He expects us to use the tool He gave us to police the place. Or at least that's how I interpret His Word[^] Don't I remember you talking about having voted to delete a message and that it was your opinion that it took 13 votes to delete it? Is this possibly a case of sauce for the goose not being sauce for the gander?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Rob Graham

Oakman wrote:

Would you feel happier if the deletions were done by moderators?

No. Like I said, I see no solution. As bad as it may be, and it does at times look like a lynch mob, the one's lynched keep on reveling in it. Data hasn't stopped just plain littering, Adnan continues to delight in his "Islamic victories", and Ilion keeps on crapping links, kiddie insults and asterisks, so those that have had enough are ultimately bound to strike back in the provided manner. Like I said, it does result in a welcome sort of silencing (and I am among those who welcome that result).

Dalek Dave

no

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

realJSOP

Oakman wrote:

he created the ability to delete messages for the rest of us.

And I vehemently protested bringing this particular aspect of the site to the soapbox. As you can see, my opinion carried no weight.

Oakman wrote:

Don't I remember you talking about having voted to delete a message and that it was your opinion that it took 13 votes to delete it?

I don't recall that I was complaining about the number, but that someone asked how many it took, and I was relating my experience. Besides that, I was talking about other forums and articles. The Soapbox has always been a special case.

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

Ilion

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

It's long past time for this childish bullshit to stop - on both sides.

Sorry, I don't do false moral equivalency: and I will not lie about myself for the sake of "peace." I am in the right, and we all know it.

Ilion

Brady Kelly wrote:

Ilion can demean? :confused:

Of course ... children can always be demeaned by adults. And for the sort of children who frequent the Sandbox, the mere presence of an adult is demeaning.

Rob Graham

*sigh* - let the lynching continue. The object loves the feel of the rope.

Ilion

The kiddies are behaving as they are because there is no cost to them to do so. I believe I indirectly pointed out months ago that that would be the effect.

Ilion

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

I recognized the futility in that approach long ago (and thus ignore his messages) - a mental leap that it looks like everyone else here refuses to make.

Oddly enough, I mostly ignore you, too. After all, who could possibly reason with the author of the following:

"You've made your point - you're a puerile little penile gland with the cerebral activity of a grain of sand. Stop your bullsh*t and let us be hypocrites in peace. If you haven't figured it out yet, we don't give a redneck dick slap about your opinions of CP or its users. So, go back to your GameBoy and leave the grown-ups alone." -- someone who surely knows whereof he speaks.

bulg

So you're the reason the soapbox exists? Does that make you the proprietor, or the drunk guy standing on top of it?