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  • B Bassam Saoud

    Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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    Mike Gaskey
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    Bassam Saoud wrote:

    Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be.

    yes, for 2 years for sure but no more than 4.

    Bassam Saoud wrote:

    Would US foriegn policy change?

    yes. we're now a nation of pussies.

    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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    • B Bassam Saoud

      Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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      Christian Graus
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      I don't think that much will change. I think it will just be dressed differently. I doubt that US imperialism will change.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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      • B Bassam Saoud

        Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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        Shog9 0
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        Bassam Saoud wrote:

        Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be.

        I've started washing my hair with sand. Nothing wrong with soap, but Change is nice now and then.

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        • B Bassam Saoud

          Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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          BoneSoft
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          Bassam Saoud wrote:

          believe that change is comming to the US

          Ohhhh yes. Not the kind of change the "useful idiots" thought they were voting for, but BIG change nonetheless, under perceived mandate (52% is a "resounding" Democrat mandate). I suspect soon enough there will be a LOT of underwear that will be changed. USSA!

          Bassam Saoud wrote:

          Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

          Probably not much. They'll just aim it in a few different directions so they can say "see, we're different!" Case in point, "we'll close down Gitmo!" OK, what are you going to do with them? "Uhhh... put them in a different prison?"


          Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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            Bassam Saoud wrote:

            Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be.

            yes, for 2 years for sure but no more than 4.

            Bassam Saoud wrote:

            Would US foriegn policy change?

            yes. we're now a nation of pussies.

            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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            Bassam Saoud
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            Mike Gaskey wrote:

            yes. we're now a nation of pussies

            Why do you say that?

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              Bassam Saoud wrote:

              Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be.

              I've started washing my hair with sand. Nothing wrong with soap, but Change is nice now and then.

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              Bassam Saoud
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              Shog9 wrote:

              I've started washing my hair with sand

              Where are you getting the sand from? :laugh:

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              • B Bassam Saoud

                Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                No more off shoring and no more "in shoring" with foreign workers.

                Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States.
                If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
                Doing a job is like selecting a mule, you can't choose just the front half xor the back half so when you ask me to do a job don't expect me to do it half-assed.

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                • B BoneSoft

                  Bassam Saoud wrote:

                  believe that change is comming to the US

                  Ohhhh yes. Not the kind of change the "useful idiots" thought they were voting for, but BIG change nonetheless, under perceived mandate (52% is a "resounding" Democrat mandate). I suspect soon enough there will be a LOT of underwear that will be changed. USSA!

                  Bassam Saoud wrote:

                  Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

                  Probably not much. They'll just aim it in a few different directions so they can say "see, we're different!" Case in point, "we'll close down Gitmo!" OK, what are you going to do with them? "Uhhh... put them in a different prison?"


                  Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                  Bassam Saoud
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                  BoneSoft wrote:

                  Probably not much

                  Actually , I hope foriegn policy doesnt change but I think it will. Lots of politicians in my country are changing teams if you know what I mean

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                  • B Bassam Saoud

                    Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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                    Dan Neely
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                    No more than in the standard Rep/Dem switcharoo we do almost every 4 to 8 years.

                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      No more off shoring and no more "in shoring" with foreign workers.

                      Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States.
                      If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
                      Doing a job is like selecting a mule, you can't choose just the front half xor the back half so when you ask me to do a job don't expect me to do it half-assed.

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                      Bassam Saoud
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                      I dont really understand how this works.Take IBM as an example. They actually layed off employees and then extended a new offer to them to work in India: IBM[^] It totally make sense to me that a US company (definition: company registered in the US AND hires local[american] employees may sponosr a foriegn worker because of Talent or shortage or whatever. But what pisses me off is that most of the companies that does the H1B thing are indian consultant companies that just subcontract to other companies. How hard is it to change the law for better monitoring of the process.

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                      • B Bassam Saoud

                        Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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                        Rob Graham
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                        Bassam Saoud wrote:

                        Would US foriegn policy change?

                        In what way? I expect that the current administration will lean more to diplomacy and shy away from military approaches (in some places - Obama seems almost hawkish on Afghanistan-Pakistan). If you mean switch sides in the Israeli-Palestine conflict, I seriously doubt it. Obama sounds like he intends to be more protectionist (a bad thing IMO). If you were expecting something really radical, I think you'll be disappointed.

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                        • B Bassam Saoud

                          I dont really understand how this works.Take IBM as an example. They actually layed off employees and then extended a new offer to them to work in India: IBM[^] It totally make sense to me that a US company (definition: company registered in the US AND hires local[american] employees may sponosr a foriegn worker because of Talent or shortage or whatever. But what pisses me off is that most of the companies that does the H1B thing are indian consultant companies that just subcontract to other companies. How hard is it to change the law for better monitoring of the process.

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                          Oakman
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                          Bassam Saoud wrote:

                          How hard is it to change the law for better monitoring of the process.

                          As long as the big donors make money with things the way they are, neitther party will change it. Getting rid of the H1B program altogether would save not jobs, but American workers. Neither the Dems or the Reps have talked about doing that.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                          • B Bassam Saoud

                            Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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                            Stan Shannon
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                            Bassam Saoud wrote:

                            Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US

                            The only agent of change we have had in a long time was from George W. Bush. Obama is not an agent of change, he is simply a socialist. There is nothing different or unique about anything he has proposed or suggested that you could not find in dozens of failed states around the world.

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            • B Bassam Saoud

                              I dont really understand how this works.Take IBM as an example. They actually layed off employees and then extended a new offer to them to work in India: IBM[^] It totally make sense to me that a US company (definition: company registered in the US AND hires local[american] employees may sponosr a foriegn worker because of Talent or shortage or whatever. But what pisses me off is that most of the companies that does the H1B thing are indian consultant companies that just subcontract to other companies. How hard is it to change the law for better monitoring of the process.

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              The whole deal just makes me want to quote Christian Bale.

                              Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States.
                              If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
                              Doing a job is like selecting a mule, you can't choose just the front half xor the back half so when you ask me to do a job don't expect me to do it half-assed.

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                                Bassam Saoud wrote:

                                How hard is it to change the law for better monitoring of the process.

                                As long as the big donors make money with things the way they are, neitther party will change it. Getting rid of the H1B program altogether would save not jobs, but American workers. Neither the Dems or the Reps have talked about doing that.

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                Bassam Saoud
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                                I understand your point of view but the world is very inter connected. You have american workers working in Foriegn countries that may be affected by such a change of policy. The answer in my humble opinion is to monitor the policy instead of shutting down the borders.

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                                • B Bassam Saoud

                                  BoneSoft wrote:

                                  Probably not much

                                  Actually , I hope foriegn policy doesnt change but I think it will. Lots of politicians in my country are changing teams if you know what I mean

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                                  I wish that people weren't so interested in oppressing, or failing that, killing other people. And I wish governments didn't feel a need to subvert and squable with other governments. Why national leaders can't just sit down and talk like adults is beyond me. But when confronted with that reality, you can fight back or lay down and die. But then aggressors usually see self defense aimed at them as aggression and round and round we go. I think it will change just enough so that they can say they changed without really making any meaningful difference. But then, I could be wrong, Obama inexplicably seems to still be under the illusion that he can be friends with Ahmadenajad. Which he can of course, if he nukes Israel (even if it wiped Palistine off the map as well). And nothing this goofy bastard could do would surprise me at this point. I'd personally like to see us stand firm on stamping out any little pockets of militant terrorists we can find, but I'd also like to see us be as responsible and cooperative as possible with all nations. I don't want to be hated by the rest of the world, or all the lefties in this country. But I'd rather be hated than dead or forced into oppression. I honestly wish good fortune and happy long lives on everybody on the planet, I just wish they all felt the same way, and plenty of people obviously don't.

                                  Bassam Saoud wrote:

                                  Lots of politicians in my country are changing teams if you know what I mean

                                  Not completely sure I do. Could you explain?


                                  Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                  • B Bassam Saoud

                                    Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                    yes. we're now a nation of pussies

                                    Why do you say that?

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                                    Heard at a "town hall meeting" * Can I have a car and my kitchen remodeled (cry, whimper whine)? * Can I have help from the government, since I graduated from college which a degree in (some wierd sh**), I have been working at McDonalds for 4 years and am having a hard time making it and want to buy a house.

                                    MrPlankton
                                    “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                    • B Bassam Saoud

                                      Just wondering, If Cpians believe that change is comming to the US. That things will be done in a different fashion than it used to be. Specifically: Would US foriegn policy change?

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                                      MrPlankton
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                                      Jack Bauer will be put on a shorter leash and have to answer to congress more.

                                      MrPlankton
                                      “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                      • B BoneSoft

                                        I wish that people weren't so interested in oppressing, or failing that, killing other people. And I wish governments didn't feel a need to subvert and squable with other governments. Why national leaders can't just sit down and talk like adults is beyond me. But when confronted with that reality, you can fight back or lay down and die. But then aggressors usually see self defense aimed at them as aggression and round and round we go. I think it will change just enough so that they can say they changed without really making any meaningful difference. But then, I could be wrong, Obama inexplicably seems to still be under the illusion that he can be friends with Ahmadenajad. Which he can of course, if he nukes Israel (even if it wiped Palistine off the map as well). And nothing this goofy bastard could do would surprise me at this point. I'd personally like to see us stand firm on stamping out any little pockets of militant terrorists we can find, but I'd also like to see us be as responsible and cooperative as possible with all nations. I don't want to be hated by the rest of the world, or all the lefties in this country. But I'd rather be hated than dead or forced into oppression. I honestly wish good fortune and happy long lives on everybody on the planet, I just wish they all felt the same way, and plenty of people obviously don't.

                                        Bassam Saoud wrote:

                                        Lots of politicians in my country are changing teams if you know what I mean

                                        Not completely sure I do. Could you explain?


                                        Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                        Bassam Saoud
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                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        I think it will change just enough so that they can say they changed without really making any meaningful difference. But then, I could be wrong, Obama inexplicably seems to still be under the illusion that he can be friends with Ahmadenajad. Which he can of course, if he nukes Israel (even if it wiped Palistine off the map as well). And nothing this goofy bastard could do would surprise me at this point.

                                        Ahmadenajad is just a pupet. He have no power in Iran. His government is not a threat. The real threat comes from Iranian supreme spiritual leader and his armed forces. They basically contol Iran. One of their military arms in lebanon is Hizbollah and my friend they are very dangerous group.

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                                        Bassam Saoud wrote: Lots of politicians in my country are changing teams if you know what I mean Not completely sure I do. Could you explain?

                                        Well the 14th march coolition, which have led to the withdraw of the Syrians from lebanon are in opposition to Hizbollah calling them to give up their arms. And this have caused a lot of tention in the country since 2005. Lots of good people have been assasinated. Today some of that coolition are changing their tune, kissing up or atleast they are silent awaitng how things will change with a new US president. G.W. have held a tough line with Syria and iran something the majority is very thankfull for and are hoping Obama doesnt sell Lebanon off (something common in Middle easten policy.) George Mitchell has been appointed by Mr. Obama as middle eastern convoy something Lebanon read as a psoitive sign as George is of lebanese decendency...

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                                        • B Bassam Saoud

                                          Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                          yes. we're now a nation of pussies

                                          Why do you say that?

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                                          Mike Gaskey
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                                          Bassam Saoud wrote:

                                          Why do you say that?

                                          because .... instead of boostrapping, we now simply whine.

                                          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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