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  • C Christian Graus

    http://www.thesmithfamily.com.au/site/page.cfm?u=28[^] Wow - now I can sponsor a child in Australia, instead of in the third world. Apparently, if mommy drinks and smokes all the dole money, people with jobs should pay the difference. I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc. I certainly think that things like cost of school books should be deducted directly in a program run in conjunction with schools.

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    Oakman
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc

    In most towns and cities of any size there are "stores" that allow you to run up a nice little register bill of food which you pay for with your food stamp card. Then the food goes back on the shelves, you collect sixty cents on the dollar in cash and everybody goes home happy.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc

      In most towns and cities of any size there are "stores" that allow you to run up a nice little register bill of food which you pay for with your food stamp card. Then the food goes back on the shelves, you collect sixty cents on the dollar in cash and everybody goes home happy.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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      _Damian S_
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      I had to read that twice to catch on what you were saying... but I'm with it now... I guess no system is foolproof...

      -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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      • C Christian Graus

        http://www.thesmithfamily.com.au/site/page.cfm?u=28[^] Wow - now I can sponsor a child in Australia, instead of in the third world. Apparently, if mommy drinks and smokes all the dole money, people with jobs should pay the difference. I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc. I certainly think that things like cost of school books should be deducted directly in a program run in conjunction with schools.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        According to the article some "disadvantaged" kids have less than 30 childrens books in their home. Given this my son is disadvantaged so you can just send the money directly to me. I suspect that most of these parents would not read to their children if they were given free housing in the state library

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          According to the article some "disadvantaged" kids have less than 30 childrens books in their home. Given this my son is disadvantaged so you can just send the money directly to me. I suspect that most of these parents would not read to their children if they were given free housing in the state library

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          _Damian S_
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          I'll bundle up some (children's books) and send them to you shall I?

          -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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            According to the article some "disadvantaged" kids have less than 30 childrens books in their home. Given this my son is disadvantaged so you can just send the money directly to me. I suspect that most of these parents would not read to their children if they were given free housing in the state library

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            Christian Graus
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            Yes, the number of books in the home does not create advantage in learning. There's a combination of genetics and environment where the parents value reading/learning/etc, books in the home are a side effect of that. I bet most of these kids have access to plenty of Cosmo/New Idea/Who or People/Playboy to read if they wanted to.

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              I'll bundle up some (children's books) and send them to you shall I?

              -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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              We've got quite a few books for him that we were given as gifts or that I bought in a sale but no where near 30. I've started reading to him each night before bed if I can get home early enough which is nice father and son time but he's more interested in eating the pages.

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              • C Christian Graus

                Yes, the number of books in the home does not create advantage in learning. There's a combination of genetics and environment where the parents value reading/learning/etc, books in the home are a side effect of that. I bet most of these kids have access to plenty of Cosmo/New Idea/Who or People/Playboy to read if they wanted to.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                I bet most of these kids have access to plenty of Cosmo/New Idea/Who or People/Playboy to read if they wanted to.

                More likely empty VB cartons or a Land Rights claim document written by their legal aid lawyer.

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I bet most of these kids have access to plenty of Cosmo/New Idea/Who or People/Playboy to read if they wanted to.

                  More likely empty VB cartons or a Land Rights claim document written by their legal aid lawyer.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  ROTFL !!! That sounds more like it. I did sell chocolates door to door years ago, and we spent 30 min in a welfare area. Most people didn't understand enough English to know what we were saying ( they had no other language, they were just dense ). I saw several house where kids were literally crawling around piles of VB cartons and People mags while the mother watched TV full boar in her dressing gown.

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                    We've got quite a few books for him that we were given as gifts or that I bought in a sale but no where near 30. I've started reading to him each night before bed if I can get home early enough which is nice father and son time but he's more interested in eating the pages.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    LOL - it's great to start that early tho, then they never remember a time where reading wasn't part of the equation. We also told the kids as they got older they could have 30 min of reading in bed if they were good. Making it a reward made it desirable, rather than something we were trying to get them to do.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      ROTFL !!! That sounds more like it. I did sell chocolates door to door years ago, and we spent 30 min in a welfare area. Most people didn't understand enough English to know what we were saying ( they had no other language, they were just dense ). I saw several house where kids were literally crawling around piles of VB cartons and People mags while the mother watched TV full boar in her dressing gown.

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      the mother

                      Who would be depraved/desperate enough to sleep with her??????

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        the mother

                        Who would be depraved/desperate enough to sleep with her??????

                        -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                        Christian Graus
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                        The equally pathetic dude who was sitting there reading porn and drinking beer.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc

                          In most towns and cities of any size there are "stores" that allow you to run up a nice little register bill of food which you pay for with your food stamp card. Then the food goes back on the shelves, you collect sixty cents on the dollar in cash and everybody goes home happy.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Sure - no system is foolproof. But, I am more thinking of a system that only ties in to big department chains, where such fraud is less likely to occur. And, anyone who is stupid enough to throw away 40% of their welfare cheque so they can avoid buying food, is doing society a favour by starving to death.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            http://www.thesmithfamily.com.au/site/page.cfm?u=28[^] Wow - now I can sponsor a child in Australia, instead of in the third world. Apparently, if mommy drinks and smokes all the dole money, people with jobs should pay the difference. I think that benefits should come largely in the form of food stamps, etc. I certainly think that things like cost of school books should be deducted directly in a program run in conjunction with schools.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                            I think welfare should be paid in something that is reedeemable only in the form of a good. No more handing out cash, it should come in the form of coupons/tokens for specific goods. Food stamps, clothing vouchers, etc... Welfare isn't a right, it's a priveledge. Would save a tonne of money on behalf of the taxpayers.

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