2nd Amendment rights under attack in the House

Oakman

BoneSoft wrote:

and squirrels and birds once Uh-bama's "stimulus" plan kicks in

How much is being appropriated for squirrels and birds? :omg:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Oakman

Christian Graus wrote:

I'd go after someone in my house with an axe or a poker. I'd know they almost certainly don't have a gun.

A couple of weeks ago, didn't you refer to a section of a town where there was lots of gunfire?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Christian Graus

Oakman wrote:

Some people deserve killing

By the army or police, perhaps.

Oakman wrote:

Your only near neighbors are pretty much the same as you are ethnically, socially, every which way

Not so. Apart from NZ, which isn't a real country, our near neighbours include native islands with cannibals, asian countries full of extremist Muslims, and so on.

Oakman wrote:

Although you've had some racial violence, you haven't got the slightest idea what it's like to share a border with a country that is so corrupt that the police either work hand-in-glove with the crooks or they get decapitated.

Yes, on this front, you are right. And yet, your government does nothing about it, because these are the people that grease the wheels of your industry.

Oakman wrote:

You haven't the slightest idea what it would be like to be invaded by 20 million illegals who are loyal to a foreign power - or the proportional equivalent in numbers. MS13 - composed of South and Central Americans has 50,000 members in this country and are known to be armed as well as the average infantry platoon.

I would suspect that most are only loyal to themselves. Again, this is your governments issue, and arming the populace will not solve it.

Oakman wrote:

Of course it's poverty. Luckily there are no poor white people in the US. A white skin guarantees a yearly remittance from the Ku Klux Klan of a quarter of a million dollars. Everybody knows that.

Well, white people are less likely to be exploited the way that your illegals are. I would imagine that the white people dying in those stats you posted, are also mostly poor, but poverty is not equally distributed, there's no denying that.

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Christian Graus

If I did, I was either in the US, or I was being sarcastic. Let me rephrase that, a couple of weeks ago, I was in the US, but I assume I was being sarcastic when I said it.

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Oakman

The discussion was about the price of houses in certain parts of Australia some said, maybe not you, that one area with cheap housing meant you had to put up with lots of gunfire.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

BoneSoft

What the bill suggests are mostly good ideas. With the likes of Peloci and company in positions of power, I don't like the idea of the government knowing much about my ownership. I know how that sounds, and all of your arguements are sound. Most of the opposition to these kinds of bills is base (I think) on the perception that they are intended to chip away at our right to own. What they should concentrate on, and come to think of it I've never seen anything about, is how people come by illegal guns. Which I think account for a majority of gun injuries and deaths. I guess it's our own national arms race. You're right, it doesn't make much sense to perpetuate.

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Christian Graus

OK - then I was just being sarcastic. I just meant that you have to live somewhere with crappy neighbours ( and you may well get mugged ) if you go to a cheaper area.

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BoneSoft

About $100, in ammo... Pretty much wiped out WalMart's stash. ;) But seriously, since the "stimulus" will do nothing for the economy, I'm expecting a complete collapse which will leave us with a hefty food shortage. Hopefully it won't be that bad, but who knows at this point; better safe than sorry. And there's not much to hunt in the arm pit of Texas. Course, once food gets scarce, I expect a lot of dogs and cats to be put out to fend for themselves. I'll have a little harder time eating them.

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Oakman

BoneSoft wrote:

I expect a lot of dogs and cats to be put out to fend for themselves.

A lady I know in Texas runs a rescue operation - 29 cats, 12 dogs, assorted geese, possums, ducks, etc. Don't go near her place thinking what you are thinking. She's packing and has a license to carry concealed.

BoneSoft wrote:

I'll have a little harder time eating them

Lots of Long Pig

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

BoneSoft

Actually, I was reading something written by a guy who worked several disasters in the national guard. He was suggesting that once food starts to run short, people will let their pets go to fend for themselves believing that it will be better for the pet. If a lot of that happens, dogs will gather in packs that will likely start attacking people, and cats of course are notorious hunters that will quickly deplete what game there is. He was saying that if you do find yourself in a prolonged food shortage situation, you'll have to get used to killing cats and dogs on sight. Makes sense. Course, eating those you kill does too. I would dislike killing dogs more, but for some reason I think they'd be easier for me to eat than a nasty cat. Hopefully I'll never have to find out.

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