Poor little jocks
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I think the school pays the coach, but they give him other stuff to do so they can call him a "teacher." Our coach taught Drivers Ed. But going back to your OP, there must be some part of it funded by the school system or they wouldn't be talking about eliminating sports to save money.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
But going back to your OP, there must be some part of it funded by the school system or they wouldn't be talking about eliminating sports to save money.
True. They're talking sports across the board and not just the high visibility things like football. In fact, I'm not sure those were on the chopping block. One of the very expensive items listed was swimming.
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Tim Craig wrote:
I'll bet the school covers the coach and whatever assistants he has as well as all the maintenance on whatever facilities they use.
Don't forget the cheerleading coach, too. My sister had that neat little bonus rilling in to her when sshe was teaching.
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Oakman wrote:
Don't forget the cheerleading coach, too.
Yeah, I know they have one of those. They turned the auto shop into a dance studio for her. The robot club got one of the old service bays for a lab. I got to really hate "Cotton Eyed Joe" while working in there. :mad:
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Ah - so it's about you! I didn't realise, I thought it was concern for the children' s welfare that was your motivation.
No, its about freedom and liberty. I am being forced to fund the social activities of other families in ways that do not create any sort of social improvement or advance the general welfare at all. Some few children benefit far more from my money than do most children, including my own. Please understand. I am not at all opposed to sports, arts and music for children. I entirely support it. But having it as part of the general educational system is not the best way to achieve that goal. General education should be exclusively for the purpose of preparing the general public for participation in the general society. A child should have math skills, reading skills, and an appreciation for the history and traditions of their culture. If I had my way, the state's involvment with public education would end after the 6th grade or so. After that, further education would be exclusively the responsibility of the family itself.
Maxxx_ wrote:
My town has several sports teams, numerous bands, a choir, many private music teachers, a number of art teachers (and galleries). As they've been around for a while, I assume they are gainfully employed. The village itself has a population of less than 700 - although I am including the immediate rural surrounds in the list of included 'rise against the feds' non academic gurus.
Well, mine doesn't. There are a few teams, and a handful of private music and art teachers. But nothing on the scale that existed in previous generations.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Yeah, and we can take even more of that money and spend it on fast food and soda for all students. Are you kidding me? I know this is a board for programmers, but are you seriously suggesting that taking sports out of schools is for the better? As if the nation wasn't obese enough, you want to cut off programs that force physical fitness. Sports aren't all about jocks. They're about building self confidence through competition. I guess being fat with poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times. I'm glad you're not an elected official where I am...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
Sports aren't all about jocks. They're about building self confidence through competition.
Yeah, you sure bought into that one. And professional (drug addict, womanizing, boozing, arrogant asshole....) professional jocks are such good role models. :laugh:
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Not exactly. He actually tried to convince you that the government is diluting Arts, Sports, etc, by getting involved and that left alone it would flourish more.
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Synaptrik wrote:
He actually tried to convince you that the government is diluting Arts, Sports, etc, by getting involved and that left alone it would flourish more.
I'm talking about a fair while ago. I thought it seemed relevant to the whole, "Let's not educate our kids" theme.
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
I guess being fat with poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times
I have always believed in sit mens sana in corpore sano, but suppose you have to cut something because you don't have the money - which goes first: Algebra or Football?
VonHagNDaz wrote:
poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times
Looks like your high-school chose Football over Spelling ;)
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Oakman wrote:
Looks like your high-school chose Football over Spelling Wink
:laugh: ouch :laugh: I blame Firefox's spell check for that blunder.
Oakman wrote:
suppose you have to cut something because you don't have the money - which goes first: Algebra or Football?
At my high school, sports made the most money. In situations like this they would actually ramp up the sports which in return brought more money to the table for other programs. Maybe I went too far with my above post, but on an unrelated issue, cutting sports from schools is becoming a bigger problem. No tag on the play ground, everyone gets a blue ribbon, everyone makes the team, everyone has to play, you can't pick on people over AIM OUTSIDE of school mentalities are ruining a whole generation of kids...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
Sports aren't all about jocks. They're about building self confidence through competition.
Yeah, you sure bought into that one. And professional (drug addict, womanizing, boozing, arrogant asshole....) professional jocks are such good role models. :laugh:
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I've played sports my whole life, have been a straight A student until college, and graduated with honors in college. It seems to me that you were picked on in high / middle school and are still carrying a grudge. This topic has nothing to do with pro sports, it has to do with sports programs at public schools. Most of those players never play at a level higher than high school. So yes, I've bought into it, I've lived it, and I endorse. Sports and competition are good for everyone. There is at least one sport / outdoor activity that everyone can enjoy, and schools should be encouraging students to find them and enjoy them for both personal enjoyment and future fitness...
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Oakman wrote:
Looks like your high-school chose Football over Spelling Wink
:laugh: ouch :laugh: I blame Firefox's spell check for that blunder.
Oakman wrote:
suppose you have to cut something because you don't have the money - which goes first: Algebra or Football?
At my high school, sports made the most money. In situations like this they would actually ramp up the sports which in return brought more money to the table for other programs. Maybe I went too far with my above post, but on an unrelated issue, cutting sports from schools is becoming a bigger problem. No tag on the play ground, everyone gets a blue ribbon, everyone makes the team, everyone has to play, you can't pick on people over AIM OUTSIDE of school mentalities are ruining a whole generation of kids...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
No tag on the play ground, everyone gets a blue ribbon, everyone makes the team, everyone has to play, you can't pick on people over AIM OUTSIDE of school mentalities are ruining a whole generation of kids...
I agree. That's the same mentality that's cutting all the advanced technology programs because the make the ones who can't make the grade feel bad. Back when I went to school I was identified in the 6th grade as being smarter than the average bear, and was put in the "AA" track which meant I was exposed to French, Latin, advanced English and algebra before my 13th birthday. I, however, did not make the baseball team. I survived the disappointment and so did the guys who were tracked in "A" or "B" or whatever down to "E" - which was either trade school or refrorm school, I forget which. However, my question was if you couldn't pay for both which would you choose. You cleverly sidestepped it.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
No tag on the play ground, everyone gets a blue ribbon, everyone makes the team, everyone has to play, you can't pick on people over AIM OUTSIDE of school mentalities are ruining a whole generation of kids...
I agree. That's the same mentality that's cutting all the advanced technology programs because the make the ones who can't make the grade feel bad. Back when I went to school I was identified in the 6th grade as being smarter than the average bear, and was put in the "AA" track which meant I was exposed to French, Latin, advanced English and algebra before my 13th birthday. I, however, did not make the baseball team. I survived the disappointment and so did the guys who were tracked in "A" or "B" or whatever down to "E" - which was either trade school or refrorm school, I forget which. However, my question was if you couldn't pay for both which would you choose. You cleverly sidestepped it.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
I'd cut the home economics, driver's ed, business typing, and computing for windows(excel, word, power point). They're useful, but people just take them to get credit hours, no one takes them seriously, so they would get the ax first.
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One of the school districts here is toying with the idea of eliminating sports as a way of getting through the budget crunch. The way people are whining about it, you'd think someone poisoned their puppy. I suppose we could save the jocks by eliminating a few math and science classes. I'll bet they'd favor that approach.
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