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It’s incompetence married to ideology

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  • M Mike Gaskey

    Yusuf wrote:

    I don't believe the most genius (even if he takes the most radical action) would bring the situation to halt in 7-8 weeks.

    not at all and that isn' the point. the point being, Magic is making it worse

    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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    Mike Gaskey wrote:

    Magic is making it worse

    I don't see magic here. He is following some of Bush's *failed* policies, such as bailing out some and not another, blindly shooting sparks hoping it ignites fire. Then you got the democrats who were waiting to clinch to power, as soon as they took off, started working on what they see as their priorities (massive spending). If the republican were in charge, I'm sure they would have thrown their own *magic* My point is, while every one contributed to the problem (there were plenty failed policies on both sides), I am not sure if any one have a clue how to get out of this mess. [edit]When economy bottoms out, how will we know?[^] Some economists think it will be 2010 before we start seeing some light[/edit]

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    • M Mike Gaskey

      Oakman wrote:

      As I said, he is what he is. But let's stay focused on the real stuff.

      right, the "real" stuff are the 4 years of swirling around the drain before we can get someone into office that isn't hell bent on turning the US of A into Red Square II

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      Mike Gaskey wrote:

      right, the "real" stuff are the 4 years of swirling around the drain before we can get someone into office that isn't hell bent on turning the US of A into Red Square II

      Don't worry, Mike. If he lets GM go bankrupt, the UAW will take care of him.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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        Mike Gaskey wrote:

        Magic is making it worse

        I don't see magic here. He is following some of Bush's *failed* policies, such as bailing out some and not another, blindly shooting sparks hoping it ignites fire. Then you got the democrats who were waiting to clinch to power, as soon as they took off, started working on what they see as their priorities (massive spending). If the republican were in charge, I'm sure they would have thrown their own *magic* My point is, while every one contributed to the problem (there were plenty failed policies on both sides), I am not sure if any one have a clue how to get out of this mess. [edit]When economy bottoms out, how will we know?[^] Some economists think it will be 2010 before we start seeing some light[/edit]

        Yusuf

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        Mike Gaskey
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        Yusuf wrote:

        I am not sure if any one have a clue how to get out of this mess.

        of course not, the idiots are doing exactly the same things that were done to create the depression.

        Yusuf wrote:

        If the republican were in charge

        less earmarks

        Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          Yusuf wrote:

          I am not sure if any one have a clue how to get out of this mess.

          of course not, the idiots are doing exactly the same things that were done to create the depression.

          Yusuf wrote:

          If the republican were in charge

          less earmarks

          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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          Yusuf
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          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          less earmarks

          excuse me. Didn't we notice ballooned ear-mark, including the infamous bridge-to-no-where during the last republican administration and congress?

          Yusuf

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          • O Oakman

            Mike Gaskey wrote:

            right, the "real" stuff are the 4 years of swirling around the drain before we can get someone into office that isn't hell bent on turning the US of A into Red Square II

            Don't worry, Mike. If he lets GM go bankrupt, the UAW will take care of him.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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            Oakman wrote:

            If he lets GM go bankrupt, the UAW will take care of him.

            Ha! I think the UAW has already pretty well insured that bankruptcy. Obama may waste lots of our tax dollars trying to save it, but there is little hope for the survival of a company that depends on sales volumes that are not likely to be seen again this decade, and that is too big (and too poorly managed) to change their business model.

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              Oakman wrote:

              If he lets GM go bankrupt, the UAW will take care of him.

              Ha! I think the UAW has already pretty well insured that bankruptcy. Obama may waste lots of our tax dollars trying to save it, but there is little hope for the survival of a company that depends on sales volumes that are not likely to be seen again this decade, and that is too big (and too poorly managed) to change their business model.

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              Oakman
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              Rob Graham wrote:

              Ha! I think the UAW has already pretty well insured that bankruptcy.

              Entirely possible. However, I was thinking "take care of" in the sense that they might have used on the Sopranos. They contributed millions of dollars to Obama's campaign and they will not be happy if they don't get their money's worth.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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              • M Mike Gaskey

                Carson and Zep may disagree, but the market[^] not so much.

                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                Investment Analysts are known for their ability of inaccuracy. They are no better today than they were this time last year, or this time ten years ago, in assessing the value of a company in terms of its stock price and in terms of the overall state of the economy. The only thing that was guaranteed as far as investment analysts were concerned is the big fat bonuses they get, or rather, got. I'm sure that Jo Average could do almost a good job by using a Crystal Ball.

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                • Y Yusuf

                  Mike Gaskey wrote:

                  Magic is making it worse

                  I don't see magic here. He is following some of Bush's *failed* policies, such as bailing out some and not another, blindly shooting sparks hoping it ignites fire. Then you got the democrats who were waiting to clinch to power, as soon as they took off, started working on what they see as their priorities (massive spending). If the republican were in charge, I'm sure they would have thrown their own *magic* My point is, while every one contributed to the problem (there were plenty failed policies on both sides), I am not sure if any one have a clue how to get out of this mess. [edit]When economy bottoms out, how will we know?[^] Some economists think it will be 2010 before we start seeing some light[/edit]

                  Yusuf

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                  oilFactotum
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                  Yusuf wrote:

                  I don't see magic here.

                  He wasn't talking about abracadabra magic. This was just an example of Mike's dog-whistle racism.

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                    Yusuf wrote:

                    I don't see magic here.

                    He wasn't talking about abracadabra magic. This was just an example of Mike's dog-whistle racism.

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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    oilFactotum wrote:

                    This was just an example of Mike's dog-whistle racism.

                    no it isn't, it is my somewhat polite way of showing my distain for an ignorant fool that shoveled shit that others swallowed and doing so by quoting a liberal left leaning rag. if I were being racist I would be a bit more obvious and a helluva lot more direct.

                    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                    • Y Yusuf

                      Mike Gaskey wrote:

                      less earmarks

                      excuse me. Didn't we notice ballooned ear-mark, including the infamous bridge-to-no-where during the last republican administration and congress?

                      Yusuf

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                      Mike Gaskey
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                      Yusuf wrote:

                      excuse me.

                      but the ignorant fool ran on a platform that promised an end to earmarks - just one more lie "you" swallowed.

                      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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