Damn! Where the hell is oily now?

Stan Shannon

The Obama Justice Department has adopted a legal stance identical to, if not more aggressive than, the Bush version. It argues that the court-forced disclosure of the surveillance programs would cause "exceptional harm to national security" by exposing intelligence sources and methods. [^] This is not a big surprise, and is certainly what I expected. Any president should, and will, put national defense before a puritanical interpretation of court decisions. I would actually applaud Obama for this if it were not such a glaring example of the very hypocrisy that put him into office in the first place.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

See? The minute Chris renames the place, you're off your good behavior and spoiling for a fight. But we can't blame you, you're a victim.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Lost User

He probably can't find the place. The illuminated arrowed sign's lightbulb has gone out and nobody can find a replacement.

Oakman

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

The illuminated arrowed sign's lightbulb has gone out and nobody can find a replacement.

Your really shouldn't have put up the one that said "Abbot's Dick."

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Yusuf

The other day, my kids were turning the living room upside down. My wife told then (angrily) go to the basement and do whatever you want. ;P

Yusuf

Stan Shannon

Well, what would good behavior be on this one? a) Obama is as evil as Bush? b) Obama is a great guy for spying on Americans? I just need the oily one to explain it all...

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Lost User

Fame at last ;P

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

I just need the oily one to explain it all...

Wait until Obama reinstates the draft. Oily and you may become fast friends at that point.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

oilFactotum

It's quite simple, really. So simple, in fact, that it can be explained soley with single syllable words - It was wrong then, it is wrong now.

Lost User

Well, duh! How can he maintain a socialist state without his secret police?

Bob Emmett

Sahir Shah

there are some things no president can do different. so don't expect any changes on that front. many of his liberal supporters feared that obama would shed his red coat and reveal himself as a centrist. that hasn't happened yet, so you don't have sufficientt grounds for gloating.

Stan Shannon

oilFactotum wrote:

It was wrong then, it is wrong now.

OK. So lets hear some real anti-Obama vitriole. I am eagerly anticipating your outrage. And I expect a lot more than single syllable words. Lets have some ol' fashioned, really nasty, Bush-hating kind of fulmination here. Don't hold back...

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

oilFactotum

Stan Shannon wrote:

Lets have some ol' fashioned, really nasty, Bush-hating kind of fulmination here

Why? I never did that with Bush, so why should I do it with Obama?

Sahir Shah

Stan Shannon wrote:

So lets hear some real anti-Obama vitriole.

where are the collective farms and where are the gulags? Oh lider el maximo del los americanos, you are a dismal failure as a marxist :laugh:

Stan Shannon

oilFactotum wrote:

Why? I never did that with Bush, so why should I do it with Obama?

Come on, oily, not even one little "betrayal of his oath to defend the constitution" lecture? I knew it wouldn't be difficult to establish that all of that was just propaganda to help get a leftist into the oval office, but I really didn't think you would make it that easy.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

oilFactotum

Yawn. I don't lecture. I gave Bush 6 years, I'm gonna wait a little more than 6 weeks for Obama. You may remember, the problem with Bush that I carried on about was torture and that makes him - and a lot of his administration - war criminals.