Obama does something right.

[Dalek Dave]

I believe that coffee should be banned. It is addictive, can be used to hide drugs and is a dangerous stimulent that kids can get hold of and then become annoying bastards. Mainly it should be banned because I hate the taste and smell of the stuff! Now, Tea, that is a much better drink!

------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

[Oakman]

Dalek Dave wrote:

Mainly it should be banned because I hate the taste and smell of the stuff!

You appear to have gotten the Jeffersonian attitude down pat. I gi=uess you believe in "Give me Liber-tea, or give me death!" I on the other hand, lived in Boston for too long not to have absorbed our long-lived antipathy to anything as British as tea. It was, you know, our desire to rid ourselves of that pernicious fluid that caused us to rebell - though we suckered Virginia into joining us by offering them the purfuit of happineff."

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Dalek Dave]

Oakman wrote:

"Give me Liber-tea, or give me death!"

Lemon Tea!

Oakman wrote:

pernicious fluid

Not at all, a womderful ancient drink beloved of warriors and lovers! It formed the backbone of the empire! Seriously, come to Britain today and you will be swamped with it! The Best Drink in the World. Hot Sweet Milky Tea.

------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

[Oakman]

Dalek Dave wrote:

Seriously, come to Britain today and you will be swamped with it!

Look you want to start a fight about whether the U.S. or the UK is a better place to live, you'll have to go to the Lounge. The Back Room is too busy with topics like "New Zealand comes out of the closet."

Dalek Dave wrote:

The Best Drink in the World. Hot Sweet Milky

For a moment, I thought you were from New Zealand. . . :cool:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Dalek Dave]

Oakman wrote:

For a moment, I thought you were from New Zealand

I wanna live in NZ! Seriously! I am having a war with my wife at the moment in order to up sticks and wander accros the world to Christchurch!

------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

[Stan Shannon]

It should'nt require being a member of a Neanderthal branch of Christianity to appreciate that the mass production of human fetuses in order to harvest stem cells just ain't right.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

It should'nt require being a member of a Neanderthal branch of Christianity to appreciate that the mass production of human fetuses in order to harvest stem cells just ain't right.

:sigh: The fetuses are being produced anyway, Stan. As I said in my OP, they are about to be thrown away and nothing Bush did made any difference regarding that. If you have a problem with fertility treatments and such, by all means post about it. Or, I suppose, you could offer to pay for the cryogenic storage of all of those fertilized eggs yourself. After all, if there's an all out nuclear war, they might come in handy.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Oakman]

Dalek Dave wrote:

I wanna live in NZ!

It is gorgeous, isn't it? A friend was shocked when we went to see the last of the LOTR movies and I told him that most of the scenery wasn't cgi.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Stan Shannon]

Is there any provision in the executive order concerning what happens to all those extra fetuses that are "accidentally" produced? If they create a few hundred extra "accidentally" so much the better? Does being concerned about that make me a christian troglodyte of some kind? You also realize, I'm sure, that the ban on using federal funds to pay for it was also lifted? So we are all being forced by the state to pay for the process whether we morally approve of it or not... Yeah, thats progress... :sigh:

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Le centriste]

Stan Shannon wrote:

So we are all being forced by the state to pay for the process whether we morally approve of it or not...

Were you concerned by the government using money of those who did not approve it to wage war?

[Stan Shannon]

Le Centriste wrote:

Were you concerned by the government using money of those who did not approve it to wage war?

Considering that it was done in a constitutionally sanctioned fashion - no. The constitution gives the government the authority to wage war - not to mass produce human fetuses.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[fred_]

Dalek Dave wrote:

I believe that coffee should be banned.

Wash your mouth out with soap young man .. coffee IS my friend

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

The constitution gives the government the authority to wage war to agree with me at all times and in all ways and to enforce my personal prejudices without delay or mercy.

Fixed that for you. ;)

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Tim Craig]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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[Tim Craig]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Does being concerned about that make me a christian troglodyte of some kind?

No, you're a christian troglodyte first, foremost, and always. :laugh:

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[Stan Shannon]

Tim Craig wrote:

No, you're a christian troglodyte first, foremost, and always.

Well, its better than being what you are, pal. Say, how many embryos do you think it will take to keep your fat ass alive?

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Well, its better than being what you are, pal. Say, how many embryos do you think it will take to keep your fat ass alive?

Stan, Christianity is a religion with very specific entrance requirements. Except for the fuzzy-wuzzy cults who think that Yeshua was some sort of new-age hippie who gave everybody a rose when was put on trial, the Apostle's Creed has been recognized as defining the necessary faith need to self-identify as a Christian. I believe in God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell. The third day He arose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Tim Craig]

Oakman wrote:

Stan, Christianity is a religion with very specific entrance requirements.

For Stan, christianity is just a political requirement. You don't actually have to "believe" anything about it but go through the motions to please the power base. He's still the atheist he claims to have grown up as. He's just afraid to admit it to his buddies anymore.

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[Tim Craig]

I hope lots of them. Wait until you need some gene therapy and we'll see how long you refuse it.

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[soap brain]

Are you morally opposed to the use of the HeLa cell line in biomedical research?