Rewriting of history
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I accidentally posted this in the Soapbox 2.0 when I suspect it really ought to go here... The BBC has an interesting article on the Gaullist view of French liberation in the second world war[^] and how France is now coming around with its first post-Gaullist leader. It seems to me that this is yet another case of ego causing problems. CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
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I accidentally posted this in the Soapbox 2.0 when I suspect it really ought to go here... The BBC has an interesting article on the Gaullist view of French liberation in the second world war[^] and how France is now coming around with its first post-Gaullist leader. It seems to me that this is yet another case of ego causing problems. CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
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Good article. It's good to see attitudes in France changing. I never really expected Frenchman to kiss our feet or higher, but their open hostility toward the US over the years has been troublesome, even coming across as ungrateful. This article seems to give a reasonable explanation for that. My grandfather's brother was killed in France sometime after D-Day and is buried there. My father has corresponded with some men from his unit. They weren't able to share any details about how my great uncle died, but they did find out later that their position was given to the Germans by some local French villagers. C'est la vie.
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I accidentally posted this in the Soapbox 2.0 when I suspect it really ought to go here... The BBC has an interesting article on the Gaullist view of French liberation in the second world war[^] and how France is now coming around with its first post-Gaullist leader. It seems to me that this is yet another case of ego causing problems. CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
Not just DeGaulle, I am afraid. He was so popular because he spoke for, and to, the French national psyche.
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I accidentally posted this in the Soapbox 2.0 when I suspect it really ought to go here... The BBC has an interesting article on the Gaullist view of French liberation in the second world war[^] and how France is now coming around with its first post-Gaullist leader. It seems to me that this is yet another case of ego causing problems. CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I accidentally posted this in the Soapbox 2.0 when I suspect it really ought to go here...
Ah! So the purpose of the Sandbox *is* fart jokes? Wouldn't life have been so much easier had that been clearly stated somewhere?
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
CDG had his ego bruised that it took the might of so many other countries, most noticibly the USA, to help the French repel the Nazi invasion.
Not just DeGaulle, I am afraid. He was so popular because he spoke for, and to, the French national psyche.
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I ain't French, but I quite liked him. His attitude towards the USA might have been coloured by the plan to rule France via an Allied Military Government for Occupied Territories. He was also right to veto the Brits entry to common market, nothing but whining Poms, as the Aussies so rightly put it, since we joined. Finally, he put his job on the line, and left when he was no longer wanted. (Best not to mention Quebec, though.)
Bob Emmett
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Good article. It's good to see attitudes in France changing. I never really expected Frenchman to kiss our feet or higher, but their open hostility toward the US over the years has been troublesome, even coming across as ungrateful. This article seems to give a reasonable explanation for that. My grandfather's brother was killed in France sometime after D-Day and is buried there. My father has corresponded with some men from his unit. They weren't able to share any details about how my great uncle died, but they did find out later that their position was given to the Germans by some local French villagers. C'est la vie.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
I wonder how they found out about the villagers, if the Resistance found out about the collaborators I imagine their fate would have been much the same.
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I wonder how they found out about the villagers, if the Resistance found out about the collaborators I imagine their fate would have been much the same.
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MidwestLimey wrote:
if the Resistance found out about the collaborators
Just as, after WWII, it was well-nigh impossible to find anyone in Germany who had been a member of the NAZI party, it was equally impossible to find anyone in France who hadn't been a member of the Resistance.
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I ain't French, but I quite liked him. His attitude towards the USA might have been coloured by the plan to rule France via an Allied Military Government for Occupied Territories. He was also right to veto the Brits entry to common market, nothing but whining Poms, as the Aussies so rightly put it, since we joined. Finally, he put his job on the line, and left when he was no longer wanted. (Best not to mention Quebec, though.)
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
(Best not to mention Quebec, though.)
Pretty good attempt. :) He's one of a few national leaders who upon visiting Quebec decided that continuing the journey up-river to Ottawa might not be a good idea. At leaset he was correct in that decision. :)
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Bob Emmett wrote:
(Best not to mention Quebec, though.)
Pretty good attempt. :) He's one of a few national leaders who upon visiting Quebec decided that continuing the journey up-river to Ottawa might not be a good idea. At leaset he was correct in that decision. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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Ilíon wrote:
Wouldn't life have been so much easier had that been clearly stated somewhere?
And saying as many nasty things about Indian programmers as possible.
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