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    73Zeppelin
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    My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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      My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

      aww man, call it a stimulus package, That way the guy could only be accused of stealing from the next generation. but ... you deserve props for doing the right thing. way to go!

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        73Zeppelin wrote:

        If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

        aww man, call it a stimulus package, That way the guy could only be accused of stealing from the next generation. but ... you deserve props for doing the right thing. way to go!

        Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        I know the owners of the store - husband and wife. The guy got pretty aggressive and almost hit the wife. Myself and another French guy intervened at that point. I just can't comprehend how a person feels it is ok to steal.

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          I know the owners of the store - husband and wife. The guy got pretty aggressive and almost hit the wife. Myself and another French guy intervened at that point. I just can't comprehend how a person feels it is ok to steal.

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          Mike Gaskey
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          73Zeppelin wrote:

          I just can't comprehend how a person feels it is ok to steal.

          I agree, again: you did the right thing.

          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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            I know the owners of the store - husband and wife. The guy got pretty aggressive and almost hit the wife. Myself and another French guy intervened at that point. I just can't comprehend how a person feels it is ok to steal.

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            I know the owners of the store

            does this mean if you didn't you would have reacted differently?

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              73Zeppelin wrote:

              I know the owners of the store

              does this mean if you didn't you would have reacted differently?

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              73Zeppelin
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              No, not at all. It's a casual aquaintence, really. I deon't even know their names. :-O I know them in that I chat with them often.

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                I know the owners of the store - husband and wife. The guy got pretty aggressive and almost hit the wife. Myself and another French guy intervened at that point. I just can't comprehend how a person feels it is ok to steal.

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                Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence. Fortunately you know the store owner. But, if that was in the UK you would probably not get a thank you from the storekeeper, and probably arrested by the Police as being a participant in the ensuing fracas and, the storekeeper would still make you pay full price for the tomatoes and pasta and might even want compensation from you for any damage to stock and/or fittings in his shop as the result of the fracas. Trust you are OK then John.

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                  Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence. Fortunately you know the store owner. But, if that was in the UK you would probably not get a thank you from the storekeeper, and probably arrested by the Police as being a participant in the ensuing fracas and, the storekeeper would still make you pay full price for the tomatoes and pasta and might even want compensation from you for any damage to stock and/or fittings in his shop as the result of the fracas. Trust you are OK then John.

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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  But, if that was in the UK ...

                  How patriotic! Slagging off our great country to a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies ... :)

                  Bob Emmett

                  modified on Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:39 AM

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                    Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence. Fortunately you know the store owner. But, if that was in the UK you would probably not get a thank you from the storekeeper, and probably arrested by the Police as being a participant in the ensuing fracas and, the storekeeper would still make you pay full price for the tomatoes and pasta and might even want compensation from you for any damage to stock and/or fittings in his shop as the result of the fracas. Trust you are OK then John.

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                    England is different then, the French police didn't pay much attention to me - they took the complaint and then left with the guy. And I did pay for my pasta and tomatoes! The guy was an idiot - he got caught and then made an issue of it. She was going to let him go until he raised his hand at her. It was all unnecessary. All he had to do was pay for the items. After he was caught she just politely asked him to leave, but even that wasn't good enough. I don't know what goes through people's heads sometimes..

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                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                      But, if that was in the UK ...

                      How patriotic! Slagging off our great country to a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies ... :)

                      Bob Emmett

                      modified on Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:39 AM

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                      Sorry to offend you Bob but you know as well as I do how violent youths are today in Britain. And I would have no hesitation to help a stranger as I previously have, but, no more. It is thankless and fraught with difficulties of all kinds.

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                        My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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                        Great stuff. I doubt if I could handle that. No side effects, I trust?

                        Bob Emmett

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                          Sorry to offend you Bob but you know as well as I do how violent youths are today in Britain. And I would have no hesitation to help a stranger as I previously have, but, no more. It is thankless and fraught with difficulties of all kinds.

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                          Sorry, forgot the smile. :) And no offence to the benighted foreign johnnies, I am sure they are all very nice people. (In their way.)

                          Bob Emmett

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                            My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

                            But why? Why do you imagine yourself entitled ... and competent .. to judge and condemn his behavior? And, is there some objective standard, and what is it and where is it, on which you base your condemnation?

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

                              But why? Why do you imagine yourself entitled ... and competent .. to judge and condemn his behavior? And, is there some objective standard, and what is it and where is it, on which you base your condemnation?

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                              This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence. Fortunately you know the store owner. But, if that was in the UK you would probably not get a thank you from the storekeeper, and probably arrested by the Police as being a participant in the ensuing fracas and, the storekeeper would still make you pay full price for the tomatoes and pasta and might even want compensation from you for any damage to stock and/or fittings in his shop as the result of the fracas. Trust you are OK then John.

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                                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence.

                                So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong." Or is it that the "wrongness" of "theft" becomes self-evident when it involves violence? Yet, one cannot help but notice that it appears (based on the limited info given) that the violence was instigated by those seeking to impose their "morality" upon a free-thinker.

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                                  This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                  Ilion
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

                                  You poor lightweight. Or, perhaps you suffer essentially the same mindset as a dhimmi toward Islam, except that you cringe toward "secularism."

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                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    But, if that was in the UK ...

                                    How patriotic! Slagging off our great country to a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies ... :)

                                    Bob Emmett

                                    modified on Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:39 AM

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                                    Bob Emmett wrote:

                                    a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies

                                    We have daytimes, too, you know.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums

                                      :thumbsup::thumbsup:

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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                                        Oakman
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                                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                                        A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived

                                        Good for you, John, but from what I know of you, I would've expected no less.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                          Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence.

                                          So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong." Or is it that the "wrongness" of "theft" becomes self-evident when it involves violence? Yet, one cannot help but notice that it appears (based on the limited info given) that the violence was instigated by those seeking to impose their "morality" upon a free-thinker.

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                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong."

                                          Well done there Troy, you can read but it is evident you don't comprehend the words you read.

                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          free-thinker

                                          The new name for the criminal act of aggravated theft? Do you class yourself as "free-thinking"?

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