Does this bother anyone else?

Oakman

Chris Austin wrote:

For growing hops and barley?

Tax evasion

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Oakman

Rob Graham wrote:

And you don't and you can't.

And I did (4 packs a day) and I don't even try.

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Oakman

fred_ wrote:

Isn't that the reason public smoking is mostly banned?

Ever see Mommie light up in the car when she has two kids strapped down in the back seat? Ever get called into the boss's private office and put up with him lighting up while he discusses something important to you?

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Oakman

fred_ wrote:

I can be treated for smoking related issues using ( I have private) insurance,

And collecting on it for your self-induced problems drives the rate up for everyone.

fred_ wrote:

but smoking-cessation treatments aren't covered.

You want to quit? Quit. Don't worry about the insurance. I went from 4 packs a day to zero at noon on April 12, 1993 without asking my insurance company to pony up a nickle.

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Oakman

Tim Craig wrote:

Not to mention that kind of policy also keeps pot, cocaine, heroin, meth,.... off the market in the US

You betcha. It's much easier to find it in the schools than the supermarkets.

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Chris Austin

:laugh:

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Vikram A Punathambekar · modified on Friday, April 3, 2009 5:37 PM

Chris Austin wrote:

My nephew's father lives off the money he is paid for not farming his high dollar land in Iowa

Umm, what? Mind explaining?

Cheers, Vıkram.

Carpe Diem.

Tim Craig

Yep, and I didn't try because I don't care about his tax. ;P Just helped him categorize his position on the argument. Now a tax I could get behind is politicians paying taxes on their slush funds.

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Synaptrik

Smoked for 15 years. Would still smoke if my lungs allowed it. No objection to it. Regardless of who the taxes go directly to the idea I was playing advocate to was that it acts as an offset to the burden placed on the system by smokers. But then I quit when it was still less than 2 bux a pack.

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Synaptrik

Commerce clause. Wheat farmers had to stop growing wheat for personal consumption as it interfered with inter-state commerce. Now that's a law I don't quite agree with.

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Chris Austin

My understanding of the commerce clause is that it only applies if you are operating in attempt to make a profit. In my case I wouldn't sell diddly. But, I do think the wheat thing was established because of a quota system or something like that. i.e. that buy growing it you were interfering with interstate commerce. Really stupid.

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Chris Austin

Not much to explain. My nephew's father has some beautiful farm land in Fort Dodge, Iowa that he does not farm because he receives subsidizes to keep his land fallow.

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Vikram A Punathambekar

Sorry, that is the point I don't understand - why does the Govt pay people *not* to farm? Apparently, it's in the Govt's interest your relative doesn't plough his land - but why?

Cheers, Vıkram.

Carpe Diem.

Chris Austin

I don't know. Sorry. I just makes me sick to think about.

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Synaptrik

Nope. Its one of the troubles that faces the medical marijuana situation in California as well. Heh. Yeah, I agree its stupid. But its also what the Kennedy's used in the 60s for civil rights. Google for details, but I found it an interesting backfire.

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