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  • T Tim Craig

    John Carson wrote:

    Sure. After all, prohibition worked a treat.

    Not to mention that kind of policy also keeps pot, cocaine, heroin, meth,.... off the market in the US. :rolleyes:

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    Oakman
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    Tim Craig wrote:

    Not to mention that kind of policy also keeps pot, cocaine, heroin, meth,.... off the market in the US

    You betcha. It's much easier to find it in the schools than the supermarkets.

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      Chris Austin wrote:

      For growing hops and barley?

      Tax evasion

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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      :laugh:

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      • C Chris Austin

        Rob Graham wrote:

        If they really gave a damn about the impact smokers have on the health care system they would stop subsidizing Tobacco farmers (to the tune of 530 million since 1997) and prohibit the sale of all tobacco products (as they do for other dangerous drugs)

        Thats a lot of money. I imagine it is just a drop in the bucket compared to the subsidizes the corn farmers get. My nephew's father lives off the money he is paid for not farming his high dollar land in Iowa. Shameful.

        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

        modified on Friday, April 3, 2009 5:37 PM

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        Chris Austin wrote:

        My nephew's father lives off the money he is paid for not farming his high dollar land in Iowa

        Umm, what? Mind explaining?

        Cheers, Vıkram.

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        • R Rob Graham

          And you don't and you can't. ;P

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          Tim Craig
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          Yep, and I didn't try because I don't care about his tax. ;P Just helped him categorize his position on the argument. Now a tax I could get behind is politicians paying taxes on their slush funds.

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          • F fred_

            Am curious to know out of all the responders how many are opposed to smoking and if so do you feel you can be objective in this discussion? and visa-versa

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            Synaptrik
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            Smoked for 15 years. Would still smoke if my lungs allowed it. No objection to it. Regardless of who the taxes go directly to the idea I was playing advocate to was that it acts as an offset to the burden placed on the system by smokers. But then I quit when it was still less than 2 bux a pack.

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            • C Chris Austin

              For growing hops and barley?

              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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              Commerce clause. Wheat farmers had to stop growing wheat for personal consumption as it interfered with inter-state commerce. Now that's a law I don't quite agree with.

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                Commerce clause. Wheat farmers had to stop growing wheat for personal consumption as it interfered with inter-state commerce. Now that's a law I don't quite agree with.

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                Chris Austin
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                My understanding of the commerce clause is that it only applies if you are operating in attempt to make a profit. In my case I wouldn't sell diddly. But, I do think the wheat thing was established because of a quota system or something like that. i.e. that buy growing it you were interfering with interstate commerce. Really stupid.

                Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  Chris Austin wrote:

                  My nephew's father lives off the money he is paid for not farming his high dollar land in Iowa

                  Umm, what? Mind explaining?

                  Cheers, Vıkram.

                  Carpe Diem.

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                  Not much to explain. My nephew's father has some beautiful farm land in Fort Dodge, Iowa that he does not farm because he receives subsidizes to keep his land fallow.

                  Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                  • C Chris Austin

                    Not much to explain. My nephew's father has some beautiful farm land in Fort Dodge, Iowa that he does not farm because he receives subsidizes to keep his land fallow.

                    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    Sorry, that is the point I don't understand - why does the Govt pay people *not* to farm? Apparently, it's in the Govt's interest your relative doesn't plough his land - but why?

                    Cheers, Vıkram.

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                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                      Sorry, that is the point I don't understand - why does the Govt pay people *not* to farm? Apparently, it's in the Govt's interest your relative doesn't plough his land - but why?

                      Cheers, Vıkram.

                      Carpe Diem.

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                      Chris Austin
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                      I don't know. Sorry. I just makes me sick to think about.

                      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                        My understanding of the commerce clause is that it only applies if you are operating in attempt to make a profit. In my case I wouldn't sell diddly. But, I do think the wheat thing was established because of a quota system or something like that. i.e. that buy growing it you were interfering with interstate commerce. Really stupid.

                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                        Synaptrik
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                        Nope. Its one of the troubles that faces the medical marijuana situation in California as well. Heh. Yeah, I agree its stupid. But its also what the Kennedy's used in the 60s for civil rights. Google for details, but I found it an interesting backfire.

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