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    Mike Gaskey
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    Interesting uTube video on change - mind boggling.[^] One of the interesting factoids; what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3. An obvious implication (to me, anyway) is that any substantial system development effort is obsolete by the time it is completed especially considering that you're more or less starting out with technical knowledge that is growing stale the day you begin.

    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      Interesting uTube video on change - mind boggling.[^] One of the interesting factoids; what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3. An obvious implication (to me, anyway) is that any substantial system development effort is obsolete by the time it is completed especially considering that you're more or less starting out with technical knowledge that is growing stale the day you begin.

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      Tim Craig
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      Mike Gaskey wrote:

      what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3.

      Obviously written by someone who doesn't have one who thought it sounded cool along with the rest of the video which does have some interesting facts. Most of the information I learned in the first year of college is still relevant more than 40 years later because in the first year you learn the basics. Science, math,... It wasn't until year three that I hit "real engineering" and much of that is still relevant although it's obviously been augmented.

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        Interesting uTube video on change - mind boggling.[^] One of the interesting factoids; what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3. An obvious implication (to me, anyway) is that any substantial system development effort is obsolete by the time it is completed especially considering that you're more or less starting out with technical knowledge that is growing stale the day you begin.

        Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        Christian Graus
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        Well, surely in IT more than most, what you learn in college is how to keep learning ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          Well, surely in IT more than most, what you learn in college is how to keep learning ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          Oakman
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          Well, surely in IT more than most, what you learn in college is how to keep learning ?

          I'd say it depends. Some people do very well in college because they and/or their teachers confuse memorization with learning. Which is not to say that some level of memorization isn't necessary - but that's like learning arithmetic so you can begin to study mathematics.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Well, surely in IT more than most, what you learn in college is how to keep learning ?

            I'd say it depends. Some people do very well in college because they and/or their teachers confuse memorization with learning. Which is not to say that some level of memorization isn't necessary - but that's like learning arithmetic so you can begin to study mathematics.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            Christian Graus
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            Yeah, it does depend. But, that's what SHOULD happen, right ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3.

              Obviously written by someone who doesn't have one who thought it sounded cool along with the rest of the video which does have some interesting facts. Most of the information I learned in the first year of college is still relevant more than 40 years later because in the first year you learn the basics. Science, math,... It wasn't until year three that I hit "real engineering" and much of that is still relevant although it's obviously been augmented.

              "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

              I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^]
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              Stan Shannon
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              Tim Craig wrote:

              Most of the information I learned in the first year of college is still relevant more than 40 years later

              That is also true of the stuff learned in grade school. Hell, for that matter, being potty trained is rather useful. Still, for all of the education I've had, I am self taught on every single technology I use and I spend a great deal of time keeping up with new technologies shortly after they come on line (don't jump too early, but don't wait too long either. Time the wave)

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Tim Craig wrote:

                Most of the information I learned in the first year of college is still relevant more than 40 years later

                That is also true of the stuff learned in grade school. Hell, for that matter, being potty trained is rather useful. Still, for all of the education I've had, I am self taught on every single technology I use and I spend a great deal of time keeping up with new technologies shortly after they come on line (don't jump too early, but don't wait too long either. Time the wave)

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Tim Craig
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                :doh: I wasn't trying to say that any degree, especially a technology one, is sufficient. My life, too, has been a continuous learning experience. If my view, one the most important things to take away from a "formal" education are the lessons on how to learn and how to find the information you need plus the basic tools to properly understand the new material. I was also partially anticipating the usual chorus of "see, a degree is a useless exercise".... :doh:

                "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                  Yeah, it does depend. But, that's what SHOULD happen, right ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                  Oakman
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  But, that's what SHOULD happen, right

                  I have a very long list of things that SHOULD happen. . . ;)

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Interesting uTube video on change - mind boggling.[^] One of the interesting factoids; what you learn the 1st year of a 4 year technical degree plan is obsolete in year 3. An obvious implication (to me, anyway) is that any substantial system development effort is obsolete by the time it is completed especially considering that you're more or less starting out with technical knowledge that is growing stale the day you begin.

                    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                    kmg365
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                    :) Skynet by 2013? Thanks, good video.

                    modified on Saturday, April 4, 2009 9:57 PM

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